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Living with chronic illnesses like endometriosis and adenomyosis can feel like a constant battle against societal expectations, and Chelsea and Alanna, know this struggle all too well. We’ve discovered that managing our lives with these conditions often resembles trying to fit the contents of a 10-inch dinner plate onto a 6-inch one—an impossible task that only invites stress and anxiety. Join us as we share our personal journeys of setting boundaries and being realistic about what we can handle. From prioritizing staples like faith, family, and community to learning how to communicate our limitations effectively, we explore the delicate balance of maintaining our health and well-being amidst the pressure to always be productive.
Navigating the healthcare system can be daunting, especially when living with complex conditions like endometriosis. Chelsea and Alanna open up about their experiences with medical professionals who dismissed our concerns, and how finding the right doctor who truly listens can be life-changing. We discuss the importance of advocating for oneself and the systemic issues plaguing women’s health care. With the power of community support, we aim to empower others, encouraging self-love and growth through shared stories of grief, anger, and perseverance. Discover how embracing these challenges can be a catalyst for personal growth and change, and how serving others can offer profound healing on our journey together.
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Managing Chronic Illness and Boundaries
Speaker 1
0:03
Welcome
to
EndoBattery
,
where
I
share
about
my
endometriosis
and
adenomyosis
story
and
continue
learning
along
the
way
.
This
podcast
is
not
a
substitute
for
professional
medical
advice
or
diagnosis
,
but
a
place
to
equip
you
with
information
and
a
sense
of
community
,
ensuring
you
never
have
to
face
this
journey
alone
.
Join
me
as
I
navigate
the
ups
and
downs
and
share
stories
of
strength
,
resilience
and
hope
.
While
navigating
the
world
of
endometriosis
and
adenomyosis
,
from
personal
experience
to
expert
insights
,
I'm
your
host
,
Alana
,
and
this
is
EndoBattery
charging
our
lives
when
endometriosis
drains
us
.
Speaker 2
0:41
Welcome
back
to
the
table
for
part
two
of
me
taking
over
endobattery
.
My
name
is
Chelsea
and
I'm
sitting
down
with
Alana
today
to
continue
learning
more
about
her
endometriosis
journey
.
This
is
where
we
left
off
.
Speaker 1
0:53
We
often
say
I
have
so
much
on
my
plate
,
I
can't
do
all
this
.
The
correlation
I
make
with
this
is
that
a
person
that
doesn't
have
a
chronic
illness
maybe
has
like
a
10-inch
dinner
plate
.
Right
,
you
go
to
a
buffet
,
you
get
your
10-inch
dinner
plate
,
you
fill
it
with
all
the
things
and
you
still
you're
able
to
enjoy
it
,
you're
able
to
fill
yourself
up
with
it
.
A
chronically
ill
person
really
only
has
a
6-inch
dinner
plate
and
if
you
try
to
shove
everything
from
a
10-inch
dinner
plate
onto
a
6-inch
dinner
plate
,
it's
going
to
overflow
,
yeah
,
and
it's
going
to
overflow
,
yeah
,
and
it's
going
to
get
contaminated
and
the
food's
going
to
touch
.
It's
going
to
touch
.
Speaker 1
1:29
And
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
,
like
,
savor
what's
on
your
plate
.
You're
not
going
to
be
able
to
enjoy
it
in
its
purest
form
,
right
,
and
it's
not
going
to
be
nutritious
in
that
standpoint
,
because
it's
going
to
create
more
anxiety
.
It's
going
to
,
you
know
,
all
those
things
for
us
ADHD
or
autism
spectrum
people
,
the
more
we
try
to
pack
on
,
the
less
fulfilling
it
is
.
Yeah
,
and
so
the
thing
that
I've
learned
is
that
my
chronically
ill
plate
needs
to
be
managed
,
and
so
I
have
to
choose
what
I
want
to
put
on
my
plate
.
Yeah
,
and
is
this
?
Is
it
?
Am
I
just
sampling
it
just
to
try
it
,
or
is
this
something
that
I
feel
like
is
actually
going
to
be
nutritious
to
me
?
Is
it
going
to
fuel
me
?
Is
it
going
to
give
me
life
,
right
.
Speaker 1
2:12
And
then
the
other
part
of
that
,
too
,
is
like
we
talk
about
the
spoons
theory
,
which
is
really
how
this
kind
of
this
podcast
kind
of
started
with
its
name
.
If
you're
sampling
all
these
different
things
on
your
plate
using
a
new
spoon
,
you're
going
to
run
out
of
spoons
if
it's
too
full
and
you're
going
to
contaminate
it
.
Yep
,
right
,
and
so
I
just
feel
like
knowing
how
big
your
plate
is
and
what
you
can
put
on
it
before
it
runs
over
and
becomes
overwhelming
is
key
.
Yeah
,
and
I
think
that
we
try
to
live
in
a
space
where
we
get
the
10-inch
plate
but
we
only
have
capacity
for
a
6-inch
.
Speaker 2
2:48
Yeah
,
yeah
,
I
think
we
get
really
used
to
pretending
like
we
have
it
all
together
with
the
10-inch
plate
,
when
in
reality
,
like
,
the
gravy's
spilling
over
the
edge
and
the
mashed
potatoes
are
falling
off
and
the
bread
roll
,
you
know
,
is
off
the
plate
and
rolling
across
the
floor
,
and
but
we
pretend
like
we
have
it
together
and
we
just
don't
.
And
setting
boundaries
and
setting
expectations
for
ourselves
that
are
reasonable
is
so
important
.
Speaker 1
3:10
Well
and
I
think
that's
like
for
me
in
doing
this
podcast
,
I
love
getting
the
information
out
I've
had
to
step
back
and
say
I
don't
have
the
capacity
to
do
a
whole
YouTube
channel
with
video
right
now
,
like
,
and
I
will
maybe
get
there
one
day
,
but
I
don't
have
that
right
now
,
I
don't
have
the
capacity
for
that
.
And
I
think
that
for
those
of
us
who
have
trauma
from
missing
out
on
things
,
that
when
we
feel
equipped
to
do
something
,
we
overfill
and
it
kind
of
sets
us
back
and
I
think
,
just
understanding
that
you
can't
just
continue
piling
things
on
because
you
think
you
can
,
because
you
will
burn
out
and
your
body
doesn't
recover
the
same
as
someone
who
doesn't
have
any
chronic
illnesses
,
and
so
that's
something
that
I've
learned
and
I've
had
to
continue
learning
.
And
there's
those
staples
on
our
plate
,
right
?
So
for
me
,
my
staples
on
my
plate
are
the
faith
,
family
,
friends
and
how
to
help
serve
those
in
the
community
yeah
,
and
the
podcast
is
definitely
a
big
part
of
that
.
Speaker 1
4:10
But
if
I
continue
to
add
things
onto
my
plate
that
don't
fuel
me
and
don't
feed
me
,
those
other
things
don't
get
the
attention
they
need
,
right
.
I
just
know
that
I
have
to
take
less
on
and
I
have
to
be
okay
with
that
,
and
I
think
that's
something
that
is
really
hard
for
us
,
because
society
has
told
us
that
we
need
to
be
go-getters
,
we
need
to
be
able
to
do
the
B's
and
C's
of
life
,
when
we're
barely
surviving
an
X
,
y
and
Z
,
yeah
,
you
know
,
yep
,
and
so
I
feel
like
that's
kind
of
something
that
I've
learned
,
because
I
put
that
expectation
on
myself
to
be
able
to
accomplish
all
this
stuff
,
but
my
body
cannot
handle
that
.
Speaker 2
4:44
Right
,
yeah
,
no
,
I'm
almost
40
years
old
and
I'm
just
now
figuring
out
how
to
establish
boundaries
,
how
to
communicate
clearly
with
people
and
be
like
hi
,
I
need
you
to
understand
that
I
don't
feel
well
and
if
that's
too
much
for
you
,
then
sorry
,
but
that's
not
my
problem
.
Like
I'm
not
going
to
make
it
and
I'm
sorry
if
I'm
canceling
on
you
or
I'm
sorry
if
I'm
not
willing
to
set
plans
with
you
right
now
.
Right
,
because
I
just
don't
have
.
You
know
,
I
am
hour
to
hour
on
how
I
feel
sometimes
and
it's
like
I
could
feel
great
in
the
morning
and
then
,
by
the
time
dinner
rolls
around
and
I'm
supposed
to
go
meet
people
,
I
feel
awful
and
I
like
can't
even
get
out
of
bed
,
and
so
I
think
,
setting
those
boundaries
and
learning
this
,
you
know
,
and
a
lot
of
it
has
just
been
over
these
last
few
years
where
it's
like
you
know
,
it's
okay
,
going
from
being
this
go-getter
and
doing
all
of
the
things
to
doing
the
things
that
serve
you
only
.
Speaker 1
5:29
And
I
think
that's
.
Speaker 2
5:30
I
think
it's
healthy
.
I
think
it'd
be
good
even
for
non-chronic
illness
patients
to
do
that
and
just
take
a
step
back
and
really
prioritize
.
You
know
,
and
this
disease
kind
of
makes
you
prioritize
what's
important
to
you
.
Speaker 1
5:52
It
does
.
And
I
didn't
realize
that
,
I
didn't
realize
how
whole
body
consuming
it
is
.
And
even
still
,
there
are
days
that
I
think
I
can
manage
more
than
I
can
.
And
what
I
realized
is
that
my
body
takes
more
recovery
time
.
Yes
,
before
I
would
think
,
oh
well
,
this
is
.
You
know
me
being
lazy
,
because
this
is
what
I
heard
.
Right
,
you're
always
tired
,
you're
always
,
you
just
don't
want
to
do
it
.
You
just
,
you
know
,
like
all
those
things
that
people
kind
of
throw
shade
at
you
for
.
Speaker 1
6:12
And
there's
proof
to
back
this
up
.
There's
scientific
evidence
that
points
to
the
fact
that
endometriosis
brains
have
a
harder
time
with
fatigue
,
have
a
harder
time
.
Their
brain
,
the
mapping
of
their
brain
,
changes
compared
to
those
who
don't
have
it
.
Yeah
,
it's
scientific
,
right
.
So
,
yes
,
I'm
not
functioning
the
same
as
you
,
but
that's
okay
.
Yeah
,
and
it's
not
to
make
excuses
,
I
don't
,
because
it's
not
an
excuse
,
no
,
it's
a
reality
,
right
.
And
I
think
that
if
we
can
shift
our
mindsets
from
an
excuse
to
reality
and
do
what
you
can
when
you
can
,
then
we
might
be
able
to
feel
more
fulfilled
.
Yes
,
and
not
sitting
in
a
space
of
but
I
wish
I
could
,
yeah
,
yeah
.
Speaker 2
6:56
I
would
agree
,
cause
I
think
that
we
spend
a
lot
of
time
sitting
there
thinking
about
the
what
ifs
and
what
could
have
beens
in
our
lives
when
we
look
at
what
this
disease
has
taken
from
us
.
Speaker 2
7:05
You
know
,
I
mean
it's
still
most
of
my
late
twenties
and
most
of
my
thirties
at
this
point
,
and
it's
it's
hard
to
you
know
not
mourn
that
and
dwell
on
that
type
of
thing
where
it's
like
,
oh
,
I
could
have
been
doing
this
,
I
could
you
know
.
Instead
of
that
,
we
got
to
focus
on
the
what
is
happening
now
,
where
we're
at
right
now
,
and
what
?
Speaker 2
7:30
we
can
control
right
now
and
guess
what
?
I
can
control
how
full
my
plate
is
.
Yeah
,
I
have
the
control
over
that
.
You
have
the
control
over
that
Exactly
.
It's
just
so
hard
to
not
go
with
societal
norms
and
do
all
of
the
things
and
be
the
boss
,
babe
,
and
be
all
of
those
things
that
society
wants
us
to
be
.
No
,
we're
tired
and
we're
sick
and
we
need
naps
.
Speaker 1
7:43
Yes
,
Lots
and
lots
of
naps
and
we
need
to
be
okay
taking
those
naps
and
if
the
house
doesn't
get
cleaned
one
day
,
it
doesn't
get
cleaned
.
Speaker 2
7:53
It
doesn't
,
and
I
think
you
and
I
are
lucky
that
we
have
really
supportive
partners
.
Like
my
husband
is
so
supportive
,
like
and
you
know
I'll
be
like
I'm
having
a
rough
day
and
he's
like
go
take
a
nap
,
go
lay
down
,
go
put
your
feet
up
for
a
little
bit
,
go
do
whatever
you
need
to
do
to
feel
a
little
better
,
like
I've
got
this
and
I
know
your
husband
is
the
same
way
,
which
is
such
a
blessing
because
there's
a
lot
of
I've
been
in
other
relationships
where
it's
not
that
way
.
Speaker 2
8:17
Not
that
way
at
all
,
not
that
way
.
Speaker 1
8:19
But
I
do
think
like
it's
interesting
to
sit
back
and
observe
our
support
systems
and
how
they've
shifted
and
changed
,
because
now
that
my
girls
are
old
enough
to
kind
of
understand
some
of
what
I'm
up
against
,
they
have
more
questions
and
the
thing
that
this
podcast
has
given
me
is
the
ability
to
answer
some
of
those
questions
.
I
can't
answer
all
of
them
and
I've
been
really
honest
with
my
girls
and
saying
sometimes
I
get
mad
at
my
body
,
Sometimes
I'm
mad
with
the
hand
that
I've
been
dealt
,
but
I'm
really
grateful
on
the
other
end
and
I
love
hearing
when
my
girls
tell
me
,
mom
,
are
you
helping
someone
?
And
I
always
say
I
hope
I
am
,
I
hope
I'm
helping
people
.
Speaker 2
8:57
You
are
.
Speaker 1
8:58
And
they're
like
,
okay
,
good
,
I
want
to
do
that
too
and
know
and
I
think
that
I'm
able
to
now
show
my
kids
through
example
what
it
can
look
like
to
serve
others
and
find
joy
in
that
without
overdoing
it
.
Yeah
,
but
they're
also
seeing
me
grieve
and
I
think
that's
really
something
that
I
didn't
understand
.
I
always
associated
grief
with
death
and
now
I
associate
grief
with
anything
that
we
have
a
sense
of
loss
for
.
Speaker 2
9:25
And
we
have
a
lot
of
loss
with
this
disease
.
Speaker 1
9:28
Absolutely
.
But
there's
also
things
that
it
brings
you
.
It
can
bring
you
community
,
if
you
let
it
.
It
can
bring
you
work
wives
,
if
you
let
it
.
Speaker 2
9:36
Great
relationships
with
people
.
Yeah
,
I've
met
people
all
over
the
world
since
I've
been
diagnosed
with
this
and
they
are
some
of
my
favorite
people
I've
ever
met
,
like
wonderful
,
great
friends
,
people
that
we
can
reach
out
to
at
any
time
of
the
day
.
They'll
answer
our
questions
,
they'll
support
us
through
stuff
.
It's
really
amazing
.
Yeah
,
the
community
that
we've
built
and
worked
our
way
into
,
yeah
,
we've
kind
of
shoved
our
way
.
We
did
shove
our
way
in
.
Speaker 1
10:00
It
might've
been
prompted
by
a
shot
of
tequila
,
but
we
are
there
.
It
might
have
been
prompted
by
a
shot
of
tequila
,
but
we
are
there
.
Yeah
,
we
are
there
.
That's
not
true
,
but
I
think
too
there's
that
sense
of
belonging
when
you
are
surrounded
by
people
who
understand
you
and
who
have
been
there
,
and
although
you
have
other
friends
who
are
fantastic
,
it's
not
quite
the
same
.
Speaker 2
10:22
No
,
no
,
my
unchronically
ill
friends
do
not
understand
what
I'm
going
through
at
all
,
and
it's
not
quite
the
same
.
No
,
no
,
my
unchronically
ill
friends
do
not
understand
what
I'm
going
through
at
all
,
and
it's
not
their
fault
,
I
mean
,
I'm
glad
they
don't
,
because
I
don't
want
them
to
feel
the
same
way
that
I've
felt
over
these
last
few
years
and
but
a
lot
of
them
just
don't
understand
.
You
know
,
and
and
that's
fine
,
they
don't
have
to
.
But
I
also
have
to
set
firm
boundaries
.
Speaker 1
10:41
But
I
also
think
that
we
it's
important
for
us
to
give
space
to
that
too
yeah
,
and
understanding
and
grace
,
because
they
don't
understand
it
and
until
you
live
in
this
space
,
it's
really
hard
to
understand
because
it
is
so
invisible
.
Most
of
the
time
it's
not
like
they
can
see
a
cast
on
our
arm
or
they
can
see
us
hooked
up
to
tubes
,
although
some
people
are
and
have
all
the
bags
.
Speaker 2
11:02
Right
,
you
know
Advocating for Ourselves
Speaker 2
11:03
.
Speaker 1
11:03
Yeah
,
there
are
those
people
and
I
just
wish
that
we
could
convey
to
others
effectively
the
extent
of
which
this
disease
ravishes
our
bodies
.
And
that's
something
I
didn't
realize
in
starting
this
podcast
,
or
even
part
of
my
story
is
how
much
it
affected
my
whole
bodily
system
.
And
now
I
look
at
it
and
I
see
so
many
patients
who
are
like
my
back
is
hurting
,
my
hip
is
hurting
,
I
can't
pee
,
or
I
pee
too
much
,
or
you
know
,
I'm
constantly
pooping
or
I'm
not
,
I'm
never
pooping
,
or
,
and
it's
like
there's
an
underlying
reason
for
that
,
and
I
think
that
we
have
become
so
complacent
in
society
to
just
take
doctors
at
their
word
as
,
oh
,
you
just
have
IBS
or
you
just
are
depressed
.
We're
so
used
and
I'm
guilty
of
this
.
This
is
why
I
was
with
the
same
doctor
for
so
long
was
because
I
felt
this
sense
of
loyalty
and
trust
.
But
even
with
that
,
it
is
okay
to
explore
more
about
who
you
are
and
what
you're
living
with
.
It's
not
going
behind
their
back
,
it's
understanding
your
disease
.
Speaker 2
12:08
Yeah
,
and
it's
your
right
.
Absolutely
their
feelings
are
not
your
responsibility
,
and
if
your
doctor
gets
their
feelings
hurt
because
they're
not
qualified
to
handle
the
issues
.
It's
not
your
fault
,
not
your
responsibility
.
No
,
let
them
cry
themselves
to
sleep
at
night
when
they
see
you
took
yourself
off
the
schedule
.
Speaker 1
12:24
so
right
,
the
other
part
of
that
too
,
is
we
pay
their
bills
right
,
especially
in
the
us
,
oh
yeah
,
but
everywhere
,
I
mean
oh
,
I've
a
few
like
ski
trips
and
stuff
for
doctors
over
the
last
few
years
right
.
So
if
they're
not
serving
you
,
it's
time
to
look
somewhere
else
.
Yeah
,
and
you
have
to
kind
of
break
up
.
And
it
doesn't
mean
they're
any
less
of
a
person
,
right
,
it
just
means
that
they
aren't
meeting
that
need
where
it
needs
to
be
met
.
Speaker 2
12:49
Yeah
,
no
,
I
mean
,
you
know
my
story
with
my
most
.
I
had
a
GP
a
few
years
ago
that
I
was
seeing
,
really
liked
her
for
a
while
and
then
my
symptoms
started
coming
back
and
I
just
wasn't
feeling
great
and
I
mentioned
,
you
know
,
hey
,
I
really
think
it
could
be
my
endo
,
I'm
not
sure
and
she
spent
a
good
solid
five
minutes
arguing
with
me
about
how
it
couldn't
be
endo
,
cause
I
don't
have
a
uterus
,
and
I
was
like
that
is
not
how
this
works
,
not
even
a
little
bit
,
even
a
little
.
Speaker 2
13:12
And
she
was
unwilling
to
listen
to
anything
that
I
had
to
say
,
any
research
I
had
to
provide
,
and
so
I
ended
up
ending
that
doctor
patient
relationship
,
moved
on
to
somebody
else
.
Absolutely
wonderful
experience
,
no
issues
.
Do
not
have
to
explain
things
.
Speaker 2
13:25
It's
amazing
,
you
know
,
and
firing
that
doctor
was
one
of
the
.
I
didn't
go
to
the
doctor
for
almost
two
years
,
Right
,
Because
I
was
just
like
.
I
am
so
discouraged
I'm
never
going
to
find
a
doctor
that
believes
me
.
I'm
never
going
to
find
a
doctor
that
understands
this
minus
the
excision
surgeons
but
they're
not
great
long-term
doctors
.
That's
not
their
specialty
,
that's
not
what
they
do
.
So
I
think
it's
good
that
you
have
found
a
way
to
advocate
for
yourself
,
that
you've
taught
other
people
.
I
mean
,
you
taught
me
how
to
do
that
.
So
I
know
you're
worried
about
making
a
difference
,
but
you
are
the
one
that
taught
me
.
Hey
,
like
there's
an
entire
endobattery
episode
,
you
can
fire
your
doctor
.
I'm
pretty
sure
you
have
that
in
you
already
.
Battery
episode
you
can
fire
your
doctor
.
I'm
pretty
sure
you
have
that
in
you
already
?
Speaker 1
14:02
I
probably
did
.
I'm
a
little
feisty
,
you
are
real
feisty
.
I
thought
I
was
feisty
until
I
met
you
and
I
was
like
that's
my
soul
sister
.
No
,
I
could
.
I
could
get
scrappy
.
You
could
real
fast
.
I
think
that's
the
thing
is
.
We
have
to
count
on
each
other
to
feel
empowered
,
because
we
get
stuck
in
our
brains
and
on
our
heads
and
in
our
fatigue
and
in
our
pain
and
everything
else
.
You
need
someone
to
say
that's
not
okay
,
To
validate
the
way
that
you
are
feeling
yeah
,
or
someone
to
say
have
you
considered
maybe
doing
this
?
Speaker 2
14:30
Yeah
.
Speaker 1
14:30
Yeah
,
I
think
.
Speaker 2
14:31
I
called
you
after
that
appointment
.
It
was
like
this
is
awful
.
And
she's
like
move
on
,
like
go
find
somebody
else
,
find
somebody
that
you
don't
have
to
convince
that
you
don't
feel
well
,
Right
?
Speaker 1
14:44
You
know
,
it's
like
that
is
such
great
advice
that
you
gave
me
.
I
mean
,
gosh
,
if
we
held
doctors
to
a
higher
standard
,
I
question
whether
we
would
be
in
this
situation
that
we
are
now
.
Speaker 2
14:52
Yeah
,
I
would
agree
.
I
mean
,
if
there
was
better
medical
school
education
on
this
,
if
we
actually
actually
if
they
actually
researched
women
,
if
they
actually
involved
us
in
like
clinical
trials
right
things
right
that
affect
women
.
That
would
be
nice
so
and
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
failures
.
It's
hard
to
talk
about
that
because
you
know
there
are
so
many
great
doctors
out
there
that
are
fighting
against
the
system
and
it
really
is
the
system
here
in
the
us
at
least
.
That
just
sets
us
up
for
failure
.
Speaker 1
15:20
I
think
everywhere
.
I
think
this
is
a
worldwide
issue
that
we
face
Yep
.
Speaker 1
15:25
And
I
would
say
the
one
thing
that
I've
learned
,
and
I
continue
to
learn
to
do
,
is
how
to
stop
invalidating
myself
.
Yes
,
yeah
,
because
and
it
was
only
recently
that
this
hit
me
how
much
I
was
actually
doing
that
I
went
in
to
go
see
a
provider
and
I
was
telling
her
all
these
and
and
and
.
Going
into
this
provider
,
I
was
like
I
don't
even
know
what
to
say
to
her
,
like
I
don't
even
know
how
she
can
help
me
.
And
so
I
went
in
and
I
kind
of
gave
her
the
brief
rundown
,
or
whatever
,
of
everything
I
was
experiencing
and
she
goes
.
She
stopped
me
and
she
said
I
feel
like
you're
trying
to
tell
me
something
,
but
you're
also
really
holding
back
from
telling
me
something
.
Speaker 1
16:06
She's
like
there's
something
on
your
mind
and
something
that
you
need
to
tell
me
,
but
you're
putting
up
that
wall
and
I
lost
my
ever
loving
mind
because
I
just
started
sobbing
and
I
have
never
done
that
in
a
doctor's
office
After
,
yes
,
in
my
car
,
absolutely
.
I've
never
cried
in
a
provider's
office
and
I
kept
apologizing
to
her
.
I'm
like
I'm
so
sorry
,
I
don't
know
why
I'm
crying
,
and
she
goes
.
No
,
this
is
a
safe
space
for
you
to
tell
me
everything
.
She
goes
.
I
can't
help
you
if
I
don't
know
everything
.
Speaker 2
16:41
Well
,
and
what
a
sign
that
is
for
how
mistreated
endopatients
are
,
where
it's
like
.
All
she
said
was
just
tell
me
what's
going
on
and
that
is
enough
for
you
to
feel
heard
,
because
so
many
other
doctors
just
do
not
care
.
They
don't
care
.
Speaker 1
16:54
Right
,
and
and
I
had
to
convince
myself
that
I
mattered
enough
and
that
my
body
mattered
enough
to
talk
about
everything
going
on
and
that
I
wasn't
going
to
be
dismissed
or
invalidated
by
her
,
right
,
yeah
,
there's
so
much
fear
in
walking
into
doctor's
offices
and
not
every
doctor's
office
,
I
do
it
to
some
of
the
best
doctors
because
there's
that
fear
that
they're
not
going
to
be
able
to
help
me
,
that
there
is
no
help
for
me
,
or
that
it's
not
that
bad
.
Right
,
those
are
like
the
chief
things
for
me
.
Yes
,
like
I'm
not
worth
having
a
better
quality
of
life
than
what
I
already
have
because
others
have
it
worse
.
You
know
,
the
list
goes
on
,
and
I
just
feel
like
we
get
stuck
in
this
trap
of
comparison
to
other
patients
,
which
we
have
to
get
out
of
,
because
your
story
matters
,
your
symptoms
matter
,
your
body
matters
,
your
feelings
matter
,
your
mental
health
matters
,
and
they
shouldn't
be
invalidated
by
a
provider
.
Speaker 1
17:46
No
,
or
yourself
.
Right
,
you're
feeling
what
you're
feeling
.
There's
a
reason
for
it
.
Do
we
need
to
sometimes
get
help
on
a
psychosomatic
spectrum
?
Yes
,
because
we
have
so
much
trauma
,
right
,
we
have
to
learn
how
to
walk
through
it
so
we
know
what
is
really
affecting
us
as
opposed
to
what
isn't
affecting
us
,
right
?
Speaker 2
18:03
Yeah
,
and
when
you
think
of
the
statistics
where
you
know
it
takes
between
,
what
is
it
?
Seven
to
10
years
to
get
diagnosed
and
an
average
of
eight
doctors
,
is
that
right
?
Which
is
crazy
to
me
because
mine
was
like
30
.
I
know
,
but
I
feel
like
those
are
really
low
numbers
.
Right
,
I
do
too
,
but
even
,
but
even
there
,
you
know
,
if
you
have
eight
doctors
in
a
row
,
tell
you
that
you're
fine
.
Eight
doctors
,
eight
people
who
went
to
med
school
,
I
mean
,
that's
a
combined
.
What
is
that
?
13
years
in
med
school
times
,
eight
,
I
can't
do
them
out
that
fast
.
Speaker 2
18:28
Yeah
,
I'm
not
doing
that
fast
,
104
years
of
schooling
and
they
all
told
me
you
know
and
I
don't
know
anything
.
You
don't
know
anything
we're
not
medical
professionals
.
We're
just
like
two
girls
that
are
nerds
about
endometriosis
.
Speaker 1
18:42
That
I
didn't
know
.
I
was
a
nerd
about
endometriosis
until
I
started
this
.
I
had
no
idea
how
big
of
a
nerd
I
was
,
until
we
started
this
,
and
I'm
like
,
wow
,
I'm
pretty
nerdy
when
you
can
talk
for
hours
about
endo
and
our
families
are
like
are
you
done
yet
?
Nope
,
we're
not
,
we'll
never
stop
talking
so
.
Speaker 2
19:01
But
when
you
hear
it
you
know
,
over
eight
to
10
years
,
eight
ish
doctors
on
average
,
if
that's
if
I'm
remembering
correctly
.
That's
so
damaging
yeah
,
it
is
so
damaging
to
your
self-esteem
,
it's
damaging
,
you
don't
.
You
can't
trust
yourself
,
you
can't
trust
how
you
feel
in
your
own
body
,
you
so
you
know
there
is
a
lot
of
mental
health
aspect
that
goes
into
this
disease
where
it's
you
know
,
and
it
kind
of
falls
into
that
hey
,
I
treated
,
I
had
the
hysterectomy
,
I
had
the
excision
,
but
I
need
pelvic
floor
physical
therapy
.
Speaker 2
19:29
I
need
regular
physical
therapy
.
I
need
to
learn
how
to
poop
again
like
a
normal
person
.
I
didn't
know
how
to
breathe
properly
.
I'm
still
working
on
the
breathing
.
Oh
,
I'm
still
terrible
about
it
.
Speaker 1
19:44
Yeah
,
I
don't
.
Speaker 2
19:45
My
diaphragm
does
not
work
the
way
that
normal
people's
diaphragms
work
and
it's
just
like
I
cannot
breathe
normally
.
But
you
also
have
to
address
that
mental
health
aspect
and
look
at
you
know
what
,
if
you
have
depression
,
if
you
have
anxiety
over
it
?
And
and
try
to
find
somebody
qualified
to
help
you
work
through
that
,
because
it
is
awful
and
it
is
so
bad
for
your
self-esteem
.
Speaker 1
19:58
So
bad
.
But
I
also
think
when
you
walk
into
a
new
provider's
office
,
you're
always
afraid
of
what
they're
going
to
say
.
What's
the
new
diagnosis
?
What's
the
new
challenge
?
What's
the
this
,
what's
the
that
?
It's
twofold
right
,
because
,
like
,
either
you
want
nothing
or
you
want
it
all
.
Yeah
.
Speaker 1
20:13
Like
there's
not
a
whole
lot
of
in
between
to
that
,
because
you're
like
I
want
a
diagnosis
,
I
want
to
know
why
I'm
feeling
this
way
,
but
I
also
don't
really
want
to
know
,
because
then
I
have
to
deal
with
it
and
that's
like
more
time
,
more
money
,
more
lifestyle
changes
,
more
of
all
these
things
that
feel
compounding
,
which
,
again
,
is
why
talking
to
someone
is
important
,
because
we
can't
carry
this
load
alone
,
and
that's
why
we
started
the
support
group
,
and
that's
why
it's
important
to
seek
out
mental
health
counseling
,
so
that
you
don't
have
to
carry
the
load
alone
.
Other
people
can
support
you
along
the
way
and
you
don't
carry
it
all
by
yourself
,
and
they
were
amazing
.
Speaker 2
20:56
Hey
,
I
saw
this
doctor
and
it
was
the
worst
experience
I've
ever
had
.
Oh
hey
,
have
you
tried
this
?
Have
you
tried
this
type
of
therapy
?
Have
you
looked
at
acupuncture
?
Speaker 2
21:04
I
found
a
great
acupuncturist
you
know
,
I
mean
we
share
so
many
resources
,
you
know
,
with
the
expectation
where
it's
like
do
what
you
want
with
these
,
right
,
you
know
,
if
you
want
to
make
an't
,
have
this
group
.
You
know
,
I
mean
,
I
would
never
be
on
the
medications
I'm
on
now
if
it
wasn't
for
you
guys
,
cause
I
,
the
whole
reason
that
I'm
doing
a
lot
of
the
things
I'm
doing
in
order
to
fix
myself
is
because
I've
seen
you
guys
do
it
and
it's
helped
you
and
it's
,
you
know
,
been
hugely
beneficial
for
you
and
other
people
in
our
group
.
Yeah
,
without
that
support
,
we
don't
have
that
yeah
,
and
I
think
,
too
.
Speaker 1
21:39
I
think
there's
something
to
be
said
.
Something
you
won't
get
out
of
a
doctor's
office
is
lived
experience
.
Yeah
,
and
sometimes
we
need
,
as
patients
,
to
hear
other
patients
talk
about
their
experience
,
because
I
think
that
allows
you
the
ability
to
take
the
next
best
steps
for
you
.
Yes
,
and
and
there's
been
a
lot
of
things
that
I
didn't
really
correlate
with
my
journey
until
I
talked
to
other
people
that
experienced
the
same
thing
and
then
had
a
diagnosis
or
then
had
a
way
that
they
were
helping
solve
some
of
the
issues
that
they
were
facing
.
That
lived
experience
is
what
can
carry
you
to
the
next
stage
of
healing
,
and
I
do
feel
like
I
have
healed
a
lot
in
just
being
in
community
with
others
.
Yeah
,
you
know
,
which
is
why
you
know
in
this
podcast
,
like
I
always
talk
about
,
we
need
to
be
part
of
this
community
,
joining
us
at
the
table
,
because
the
table
is
where
you
share
the
most
intimate
meals
,
which
goes
back
to
my
plate
theory
and
my
spoon
theory
and
all
the
theories
you
see
where
my
mind
goes
.
Speaker 2
22:43
We're
very
food
oriented
here
.
Speaker 1
22:45
Even
though
we
can't
eat
it
half
the
time
.
Speaker 2
22:46
We
don't
eat
most
of
the
things
,
but
we
like
talking
about
it
.
We'll
talk
about
it
.
We
make
good
analogies
.
Yeah
.
Speaker 1
22:52
But
I
mean
,
if
you're
like
,
oh
,
let's
go
meet
for
coffee
and
you
have
coffee
at
a
table
,
you
get
to
know
more
about
these
people
.
You
get
to
know
the
more
intimate
aspects
of
who
people
are
when
you
sit
down
at
a
table
and
have
coffee
with
them
.
Speaker 1
23:04
Yeah
absolutely
that's
.
What
we
need
as
a
community
is
to
be
able
to
feel
safe
enough
to
sit
at
the
table
with
others
and
learn
and
grow
and
heal
.
I
think
,
honestly
,
I
didn't
see
that
as
a
big
element
starting
this
,
but
now
.
Now
that
is
like
my
whole
takeaway
.
Speaker 2
23:23
Yeah
,
so
would
you
say
like
your
goals
have
changed
since
you
started
endobattery
?
I
feel
like
they
have
,
but
how
?
How
do
you
feel
like
your
goals
have
changed
over
the
last
three
years
?
Speaker 1
23:35
Uh
well
,
I
think
part
of
it
is
.
I
thought
it
was
just
for
information
and
now
I'm
realizing
it's
about
community
.
Yeah
,
and
now
I'm
also
realizing
that
I
am
right
there
with
my
community
and
my
goals
in
doing
this
is
to
continue
not
only
advocating
but
meeting
people
where
they're
at
,
in
the
space
that
they're
at
,
and
that's
why
,
you
know
,
when
I
have
people
on
or
whatever
,
I
want
to
be
able
to
try
to
help
build
Empowering Growth and Support in Advocacy
Speaker 1
24:05
that
bridge
.
Because
I
don't
know
about
you
,
but
for
me
it
was
really
hard
to
advocate
for
myself
in
the
midst
of
all
my
pain
.
Speaker 1
24:12
And
there
have
been
times
,
even
still
in
the
discovery
phase
,
of
something
else
happening
that
it's
hard
for
me
to
advocate
,
or
it's
hard
for
me
to
hear
things
,
or
it's
hard
for
me
to
advocate
,
or
it's
hard
for
me
to
hear
things
,
or
it's
hard
for
me
to
figure
out
my
next
steps
.
But
if
this
is
a
tangible
way
to
do
that
,
I
want
to
help
do
that
and
facilitate
that
way
of
healing
or
information
gathering
or
whatever
the
case
may
be
.
Speaker 1
24:35
So
my
overall
goal
is
not
only
to
provide
advice
,
good
,
evidence-based
material
,
but
also
to
meet
people
where
they're
at
,
and
part
of
that
is
,
you
know
,
emailing
me
info
at
endobatterycom
.
If
you
have
questions
,
if
you
want
to
hear
about
a
specific
topic
,
or
if
you
just
telling
me
a
little
bit
about
your
story
,
you
can
me
and
be
like
hey
Alana
,
I
just
wanted
to
tell
you
this
,
and
it
fuels
me
so
much
when
I
hear
things
like
that
.
But
I
really
try
to
impress
on
people
that
this
is
not
so
much
my
podcast
as
it
is
theirs
.
I'm
learning
a
ton
.
I'm
learning
a
lot
about
myself
,
about
the
endometriosis
community
,
about
endometriosis
as
a
disease
,
but
also
life
past
excision
.
When
you're
looking
past
the
endometriosis
and
I
think
that's
something
that
we
don't
often
talk
about
enough
is
life
after
excision
and
the
challenges
that
you
can
have
,
but
also
the
good
things
that
you
can
have
.
And
so
my
goal
with
doing
the
podcast
and
in
my
own
journey
is
just
growth
growth
in
community
,
growth
in
knowledge
,
growth
and
understanding
.
Speaker 1
25:47
Growth
in
community
,
growth
in
knowledge
,
growth
and
understanding
and
growing
in
loving
myself
more
through
this
journey
and
showing
myself
grace
,
because
that's
a
really
hard
thing
for
me
to
do
,
and
I
think
when
you
have
people
surrounding
you
like
you
and
I
talk
all
the
time
but
we've
both
come
to
one
another
and
said
I'm
so
mad
right
now
and
to
feel
validated
in
that
is
huge
,
yeah
,
and
we
all
need
that
space
.
So
I
don't
know
,
I
think
just
showing
each
other
grace
but
allowing
space
for
grief
and
anger
and
frustration
,
but
using
that
to
fuel
change
,
is
important
.
It's
beautiful
.
I
think
that's
beautiful
.
Speaker 2
26:21
Well
,
I
know
I
can
speak
for
a
good
chunk
of
the
endometriosis
community
when
I
say
that
you
really
are
contributing
in
a
huge
way
to
the
conversation
.
You're
contributing
to
the
information
that's
available
.
I've
learned
a
ton
from
your
podcast
and
I
talk
to
you
every
day
.
Speaker 3
26:39
So
,
and
I've
learned
so
much
,
you
know
I
mean
you
have
incredible
guests
.
Speaker 2
26:43
You
do
a
really
good
job
of
balancing
everything
,
of
talking
about
the
emotional
side
,
the
physical
side
,
all
of
it
,
and
I
just
I
know
you're
making
a
huge
difference
and
it
makes
me
so
proud
to
be
your
friend
.
Speaker 1
26:53
So
why
you're
sitting
next
to
me
is
to
boost
me
.
Speaker 2
26:56
Yeah
,
you
know
I'm
here
to
make
you
feel
good
,
so
but
I
mean
it
,
I
really
do
,
Like
you've
changed
my
life
in
such
a
positive
way
and
I'm
100%
certain
that
I'm
not
the
only
person
that
feels
that
way
,
so
I
know
you
have
a
lot
of
listeners
that
are
grateful
for
the
content
you
provide
and
the
support
you
provide
,
even
if
it's
just
while
we're
just
sitting
at
your
kitchen
table
with
microphones
hanging
out
talking
,
drinking
our
Ziggy's
hashtag
.
Speaker 1
27:19
Sponsor
us
hashtag
,
please
.
We're
not
sponsored
yet
.
I
am
happy
to
do
it
and
I
you
know
I've
said
this
before
to
so
many
people
.
I
didn't
know
I
needed
this
podcast
as
much
as
I
do
in
some
ways
,
because
it's
been
part
of
my
healing
journey
yeah
it's
been
part
of
figuring
out
my
purpose
yeah
and
I
also
want
to
say
that
your
purpose
doesn't
always
have
to
be
easy
,
no
,
and
pain-free
it
doesn't
.
Speaker 1
27:44
And
there
are
many
days
that
I
question
certain
things
and
I
beat
myself
up
in
my
own
head
about
certain
things
and
I
question
my
ability
.
Why
am
I
doing
this
?
Am
I
?
You
know
all
these
things
right
?
Yeah
,
and
I
think
that's
only
natural
it
is
.
Speaker 1
28:00
But
I
do
think
that
if
we
allow
doubt
to
fill
our
heads
without
motivation
,
then
it's
just
that
it's
just
doubt
.
But
if
we
allow
doubt
to
propel
us
into
something
more
,
to
get
us
thinking
outside
the
box
,
to
get
us
thinking
outside
the
situation
,
then
that's
empowerment
it
is
.
And
that's
empowerment
it
is
.
And
I
just
want
to
encourage
people
like
if
you
have
doubt
,
even
if
it's
in
your
own
health
,
let
it
empower
you
to
grow
and
change
and
to
step
outside
the
known
box
and
into
the
unknown
box
,
because
I
bet
you
anything
,
the
colors
are
brighter
they
are
.
You
will
be
unstoppable
from
that
point
.
So
that's
kind
of
my
mindset
,
and
doing
a
lot
of
it
too
is
like
I
have
doubt
all
the
time
.
But
what's
that
doubt
going
to
do
?
It's
going
to
propel
me
,
it's
going
to
empower
me
.
Speaker 2
28:52
So
no
,
and
I
think
there's
a
huge
,
huge
benefit
to
service
as
healing
.
Yeah
,
and
there
really
is
.
I'm
sure
there's
science
behind
it
somewhere
.
Speaker 1
29:02
Mel
Robbins
probably
has
something
like
that
,
Mel
,
if
you
want
to
come
on
please
.
Speaker 2
29:05
Oh
my
gosh
,
that
would
be
my
dream
.
Speaker 1
29:07
If
she
wants
to
come
on
and
talk
about
that
,
that
would
be
.
Wouldn't
that
be
impactful
?
Oh
everyone
get
on
Put
in
the
messages
to
Mel
Robbins
.
Speaker 2
29:14
Yes
,
because
we
love
her
.
And
she
really
is
brilliant
about
this
stuff
and
it
helps
so
much
to
a
step
outside
of
your
journey
and
be
beneficial
to
other
people
on
their
journey
.
Speaker 1
29:27
And
that
in
turn
heals
some
of
those
broken
pieces
inside
of
us
.
Yeah
,
absolutely
,
I
100%
agree
with
that
.
I
would
say
1000
,
but
that's
not
an
actual
number
.
Speaker 2
29:33
It's
okay
,
we
like
exaggerating
,
it's
fine
.
Speaker 1
29:36
It's
true
Drama
queens
,
according
to
all
the
doctors
.
Speaker 2
29:38
We're
just
exaggerating
.
Speaker 1
29:40
Exaggerating
Loud
drama
.
Queens
,
we're
making
things
up
.
Speaker 2
29:42
Yeah
Well
,
I
really
appreciate
everything
that
we
talked
about
today
.
It
is
so
fun
being
on
your
show
.
I
love
when
you
have
me
on
here
and
I
appreciate
you
being
such
a
good
friend
,
such
a
great
podcast
host
and
such
a
fierce
advocate
for
patients
with
endometriosis
in
our
communities
and
around
the
world
.
There
are
people
listening
all
around
the
world
and
it's
really
quite
amazing
for
me
to
see
what
you
have
turned
this
into
,
and
it
makes
me
so
proud
to
be
your
friend
.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
letting
me
jump
in
here
today
and
chat
with
you
.
Speaker 1
30:14
I'd
have
you
all
the
time
if
I
could
.
Speaker 2
30:16
You
know
I'm
too
tired
for
that
.
I
can't
put
that
on
my
six
inch
plate
but
I'm
happy
to
show
up
like
once
a
month
.
So
need
me
so
I
have
enough
energy
for
one
podcast
a
month
,
maybe
,
or
with
the
right
guests
,
maybe
I'd
show
up
.
Speaker 1
30:28
But
everyone
needs
to
tell
Chelsea
how
much
they
love
her
.
Speaker 2
30:32
Oh
I
,
it
would
be
good
for
my
self-esteem
.
I
am
.
I
still
have
self-esteem
issues
,
so
I'm
working
through
them
.
I've
got
a
great
therapist
but
don't
say
anything
.
Speaker 1
30:41
Mean
about
me
,
yeah
I
can't
take
it
,
I'm
too
fragile
.
Speaker 2
30:47
Oh
no
,
thanks
for
sitting
,
making
me
sit
down
and
talk
about
myself
yeah
,
no
,
I
feel
like
it
was
time
for
people
to
kind
of
get
a
recap
from
you
and
just
learn
about
what
you've
learned
on
your
journey
,
because
you've
changed
so
much
over
these
last
few
years
that
I
have
,
thank
goodness
goodness
,
I'm
not
a
stagnant
pond
.
Speaker 1
31:04
You
were
really
annoying
before
.
Speaker 2
31:06
Thank
you
for
listening
today
.
Until
next
time
,
please
keep
advocating
for
yourself
and
for
others
.