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Supporting Each Other Through Endometriosis
Speaker 1
0:00
Welcome
back
to
Indo
Battery
Happy
Friendsgiving
.
Today
it's
Friendsgiving
for
us
,
so
go
ahead
and
grab
your
cocktail
,
mocktail
,
coffee
or
tea
and
sit
back
and
relax
and
enjoy
the
conversation
that
I
will
be
having
with
someone
that
I
adore
greatly
,
who
is
in
my
life
all
the
time
and
can
never
come
out
of
my
life
ever
,
and
that's
my
work
wife
Chelsea
.
Speaker 2
0:21
Hello
,
hi
,
hi
Again
.
So
happy
to
be
here
.
I
love
when
you
invite
me
to
be
on
with
you
.
It's
always
fun
,
it
is
fun
,
it
is
fun
,
and
you
are
my
favorite
work
wife
I've
ever
had
,
so
really
I
am
,
you
are
,
yeah
,
yeah
.
Oh
wow
,
you
win
that
award
for
sure
.
Speaker 1
0:37
Is
it
because
we
have
angry
uteruses
?
It
is
.
Speaker 2
0:41
That's
what
brought
us
together
.
It
is
what
brought
us
together
,
our
angry
pelvises
.
Yes
,
in
general
.
Speaker 1
0:46
In
general
.
Yeah
,
it
wasn't
so
much
the
uterus
as
the
pelvis
,
for
us
Right
.
Yeah
,
even
though
uterus
was
angry
yeah
.
Speaker 2
0:53
Mine
was
like
uterosecral
ligaments
and
ovaries
and
all
the
other
things
were
angry
.
I
mean
my
uterus
was
pretty
angry
,
but
yeah
.
Speaker 1
1:00
Yeah
,
and
that's
why
I
think
having
community
and
why
this
Friendsgiving
is
important
,
because
Friendsgiving
is
about
giving
gratitude
for
your
community
that
you're
in
,
and
we
have
a
great
community
.
Speaker 2
1:13
We
do
have
a
great
community
and
we've
worked
really
hard
to
establish
this
community
and
kind
of
get
people
together
and
on
the
same
page
when
it
comes
to
this
disease
and
how
to
support
each
other
.
And
it
just
makes
me
really
happy
that
I
have
you
in
my
life
now
and
,
yeah
,
you
are
one
of
my
favorite
people
.
Speaker 1
1:30
So
thank
you
.
You're
one
of
mine
,
and
mostly
because
we
can
talk
to
each
other
about
everything
.
Like
I'll
call
Chelsea
and
I'm
like
I
will
sometimes
just
sit
on
the
phone
and
not
even
talk
and
like
work
on
stuff
.
Speaker 2
1:42
I
do
Like
I'll
sit
there
and
be
working
on
like
our
website
,
or
and
she'll
be
working
on
her
website
.
We'll
be
working
on
stuff
,
yeah
,
and
we
don't
even
talk
,
like
every
once
in
a
while
we
like
mutter
profanities
or
something
.
That's
it
.
That's
what
our
phone
calls
consist
of
sometimes
.
Speaker 1
2:00
Sometimes
,
and
it's
okay
,
but
it's
like
I
don't
know
what
it
is
.
It's
about
having
that
like
I
don't
know
what
to
call
it
,
maybe
that
camaraderie
of
the
moral
support
.
Speaker 2
2:10
The
moral
support
.
Speaker 1
2:10
Right
,
I
am
so
exhausted
right
now
and
I'm
a
little
moody
and
my
kids
are
going
to
drive
me
crazy
,
so
if
I'm
on
the
phone
with
you
,
maybe
,
just
maybe
,
I
can
get
something
done
.
Speaker 2
2:20
Yeah
,
I
would
agree
with
you
completely
.
You
help
keep
me
from
losing
my
mind
a
lot
of
times
,
which
is
good
,
especially
lately
,
because
my
hormones
have
been
,
I
think
,
non
existent
.
At
this
point
I'm
pretty
sure
they
all
are
just
gone
,
like
I
just
don't
have
any
hormones
left
or
anything
.
So
I
think
it's
been
a
little
bit
difficult
and
having
you
to
walk
through
it
and
be
like
hey
,
I
just
yelled
at
everyone
that
I
love
and
it
started
crying
at
the
same
time
and
then
pretend
like
nothing
happened
and
you're
like
hey
.
Speaker 1
2:50
I
know
exactly
how
that
is
.
I
just
had
a
meltdown
on
my
family
and
it's
fine
,
it's
fine
,
yeah
,
everybody's
fine
,
saving
for
their
therapy
bills
on
top
of
mine
.
So
it's
,
it's
,
it's
,
it's
,
it's
.
Speaker 2
3:00
It
might
remind
me
to
go
apologize
Like
it
might
be
a
good
idea
for
you
to
go
say
sorry
,
chelsea
,
for
the
words
that
you
said
and
your
attitude
,
cause
it
is
kind
of
bad
,
and
you'll
tell
me
that
,
which
I
love
I'd
be
like
.
You
do
have
a
bad
attitude
.
You
need
to
reel
it
in
which
is
nice
.
I
think
having
honest
friends
is
like
one
of
the
best
things
you
can
have
.
Speaker 1
3:18
Yeah
.
Speaker 2
3:19
So
,
and
you're
very
honest
with
me
.
Speaker 1
3:20
Well
,
and
it's
good
,
because
in
the
advocacy
world
or
when
you're
public
like
this
podcast
is
I
sometimes
just
need
to
bounce
ideas
off
of
you
,
like
,
hey
,
what
do
you
think
about
this
?
Or
like
I'm
really
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
do
this
and
make
it
approachable
.
What
does
this
look
like
?
And
sometimes
my
brain
is
so
inundated
with
all
the
information
that
I
am
constantly
learning
,
which
I'm
so
thankful
for
that
that
information
.
I'm
enjoying
just
being
able
to
sit
down
and
have
a
conversations
with
other
patients
,
with
doctors
,
with
experts
in
their
field
.
I
love
that
.
I
love
learning
.
But
sometimes
it's
I
get
so
in
the
weeds
of
that
that
I
need
someone
to
help
pull
me
out
and
say
,
hey
,
have
you
thought
about
this
?
Or
I'll
run
something
past
you
and
you're
like
Well
,
I
like
that
,
but
I
think
this
would
be
better
.
Yeah
,
and
I
think
that's
so
important
in
our
community
to
have
that
,
because
we
do
get
in
the
weeds
,
but
we're
also
dealing
with
an
illness
that
takes
a
lot
out
of
you
.
Speaker 2
4:25
I
would
agree
with
you
and
I
think
that
it's
one
of
my
favorite
things
about
our
friendship
is
when
I'm
having
a
bad
day
or
I
wake
up
and
it's
like
oh
,
I
didn't
,
I
slept
two
hours
last
night
.
I
can't
function
Like
you
.
Never
make
me
feel
bad
for
being
like
.
Today
is
not
the
day
.
Speaker 1
4:40
I
love
you
,
I
want
to
come
over
.
Speaker 2
4:41
I
want
to
see
you
.
You
know
we
had
plans
,
we
were
going
to
record
something
,
we
were
going
to
go
somewhere
,
and
you
will
never
give
me
a
hard
time
for
it
and
you'll
just
be
like
,
hey
,
I
get
it
,
you're
good
.
Take
the
day
off
Like
,
rest
,
relax
,
do
what
you
need
to
do
,
we'll
regroup
later
.
And
it's
so
nice
.
And
not
that
my
friends
that
don't
have
endometriosis
don't
understand
,
because
they
do
,
they're
awesome
about
it
usually
,
but
with
you
.
Speaker 2
5:05
It's
like
oh
,
it
takes
,
is
like
one
message
from
like
hey
,
today's
not
the
day
and
you're
like
,
hey
,
I
get
it
Must
have
been
a
rough
night
.
Must
have
been
a
rough
morning
,
whatever
it
is
,
and
it's
nice
having
somebody
that
you'd
like
love
me
unconditionally
.
Speaker 1
5:16
Yeah
,
or
you
can
complain
about
your
hot
flashes
too
,
or
my
hot
flashes
,
oh
my
gosh
.
Speaker 2
5:20
And
there's
so
that
,
like
I
was
actually
an
hour
late
today
to
meeting
her
because
I
had
to
shower
,
because
I
was
so
sweaty
.
It's
just
like
I
can't
go
out
in
public
Like
I
can
.
It
was
not
good
so
yeah
,
and
we
get
it
.
Speaker 1
5:34
I
mean
,
and
that's
the
thing
,
like
when
you
have
community
,
you're
able
to
feel
seen
,
and
I
think
that
that's
important
in
this
disease
,
because
I
feel
like
a
lot
of
times
we
feel
so
isolated
.
Speaker 2
5:46
And
we're
.
It's
exhausting
pretending
like
we're
okay
all
the
time
,
yeah
,
and
it's
so
nice
to
be
like
hey
,
not
okay
today
.
You
get
it
.
I'm
not
complaining
,
I'm
not
.
It's
just
this
is
where
I'm
at
and
I'm
just
exhausted
or
I
don't
feel
well
,
and
it's
just
nice
to
have
.
It's
nice
to
have
that
.
Speaker 1
6:05
Chelsea
is
on
the
nonprofit
board
with
me
,
shelby
,
and
then
there's
Lee
and
Inga
as
well
,
and
we
started
this
nonprofit
called
Indo
village
and
it's
been
really
good
for
us
to
have
a
space
,
with
other
endometriosis
patients
coming
in
and
bouncing
ideas
off
of
one
another
.
And
what's
been
so
fascinating
and
what
I'm
so
grateful
for
is
that
when
someone
walks
in
,
we
see
them
,
we
understand
exactly
what
they're
going
through
and
we
can
bounce
ideas
off
of
each
other
Like
,
hey
,
I'm
really
struggling
with
my
hormones
.
I
have
no
drive
at
all
.
Really
,
I
am
like
a
teenage
boy
over
here
.
Right
,
what
did
you
do
?
Oh
,
you're
taking
testosterone
,
got
it
.
I
didn't
know
that
was
an
option
.
Or
hey
,
I
saw
this
doctor
and
they
were
amazing
.
They
understood
what
endometriosis
was
.
If
you
need
a
doctor
like
this
,
this
is
a
really
good
resource
for
you
.
So
like
pooling
your
resources
and
having
ideas
to
bounce
off
of
one
another
,
because
,
just
because
you
have
an
excision
surgery
,
that's
step
one
.
But
life
still
happens
,
right
?
This
disease
did
not
happen
overnight
,
right
?
Nor
is
healing
.
Speaker 2
7:13
It
takes
years
to
undo
the
damage
.
I
mean
,
I'm
more
than
three
years
out
from
surgery
and
I'm
still
in
pelvic
floor
physical
therapy
regularly
.
I'm
still
doing
regular
massages
and
stuff
to
treat
some
of
my
muscle
dysfunction
in
my
back
.
I
work
at
it
every
day
.
You
know
I'm
still
every
day
I'm
trying
new
things
and
I'm
testing
out
stuff
just
to
see
what
works
and
what
doesn't
work
.
Speaker 2
7:34
And
so
it's
a
marathon
and
it's
important
that
you
have
people
on
your
team
to
kind
of
jump
in
for
you
and
help
out
where
they
can
and
support
you
along
the
way
,
because
this
is
not
an
overnight
hey
,
head
surgery
and
I
feel
great
the
next
day
and
I'm
ready
to
go
and
I
have
my
life
back
.
It's
and
that
was
,
I
think
,
one
of
the
things
that
was
so
surprising
to
me
about
this
disease
was
I
had
surgery
and
I
woke
up
and
I'm
like
I
definitely
felt
better
.
Speaker 1
7:58
Yeah
.
Speaker 2
7:59
But
it
was
like
oh
no
,
I
still
don't
feel
great
Like
what's
going
on
.
Excuse
me
,
body
.
Yeah
,
excuse
me
,
you're
supposed
to
be
better
.
Speaker 1
8:07
You're
not
as
permission
to
feel
this
way
again
,
right
?
Speaker 2
8:10
Yes
,
exactly
,
and
you
know
it's
like
that
excision
is
the
first
step
and
there's
so
much
more
involved
in
it
and
I
think
having
that
community
during
this
marathon
,
it's
just
,
it's
so
important
and
I'm
so
happy
that
we
have
the
group
that
we
have
,
you
know
,
with
our
nonprofit
board
,
but
also
the
members
of
Endo
Village
that
come
to
our
meetings
every
month
.
We
do
in-person
meetings
every
month
where
we
bring
people
in
,
you
know
,
the
Northern
Colorado
area
together
and
sometimes
we
have
education
stuff
.
Sometimes
we
do
like
fun
events
,
Like
this
month
it's
going
to
be
a
social
event
and
it's
just
,
it's
nice
,
it's
so
fun
to
be
able
to
sit
and
I
look
forward
to
seeing
everybody
and
we've
we've
built
a
really
good
group
here
and
I
just
cannot
emphasize
enough
how
healing
that
has
been
for
all
of
us
,
I
think
.
Speaker 1
8:54
Yeah
,
I
would
agree
.
I
mean
,
I
feel
like
you
know
before
I've
had
really
good
friends
and
I
still
do
it
Like
you
guys
aren't
my
only
friends
.
Speaker 1
9:01
I
hate
to
break
that
to
you
that
you're
not
my
only
.
I
know
I
thought
I
was
it
.
You're
my
workwife
.
You're
still
.
You're
the
only
workwife
I
have
right
now
.
I
like
that
.
I'll
take
that
.
Yeah
,
okay
,
I
do
feel
like
it's
important
that
we
recognize
that
this
disease
can
be
lasting
and
I
think
that
when
you
gather
people
who
understand
that
,
it
becomes
a
different
bond
.
I
don't
really
know
how
to
explain
it
.
It's
a
totally
different
bond
than
what
you
would
typically
see
within
your
friend
group
,
because
we
get
it
right
.
Right
,
we
get
it
.
We
get
our
crazy
,
yep
,
oh
,
we
get
it
Probably
too
well
.
Speaker 2
9:37
Probably
too
well
.
Speaker 1
9:38
Like
the
trauma
that
we've
faced
in
the
past
.
If
you
have
trauma
,
we
get
that
Right
,
we
get
.
Hey
,
I
tried
this
,
I
did
too
,
and
it
was
awful
.
It
was
awful
for
me
too
.
I'm
not
crazy
,
nope
,
no
,
am
I
crazy
?
Well
,
yeah
,
probably
we
both
are
,
but
you
know
we're
crazy
together
,
Right
?
Speaker 2
9:55
No
,
it's
very
true
.
It's
very
validating
to
have
other
people
you
know
,
because
I
think
,
especially
during
the
diagnostic
process
of
this
disease
,
and
how
long
it
takes
you
just
you're
told
nothing's
wrong
with
you
forever
you
know
,
I
mean
,
it
took
me
22
years
to
get
diagnosed
and
so
you
know
,
with
people
,
with
having
that
group
of
people
where
it's
like
,
hey
,
like
I
know
that
my
feelings
are
valid
,
I
know
that
what
I'm
experiencing
in
my
body
is
actually
true
.
Speaker 2
10:22
And
this
is
true
,
and
it's
so
nice
to
have
people
on
your
side
that
really
understand
that
,
but
it's
also
important
to
find
people
that
you
can
laugh
with
.
Oh
yeah
,
we
laugh
more
than
we
actually
do
anything
else
.
It's
so
true
.
It's
so
true
,
yeah
.
Speaker 1
10:37
And
I
do
think
like
that
is
part
of
that
healing
process
.
I
feel
like
we're
in
this
.
I
think
for
years
I
was
in
this
trauma
,
pain
cycle
.
And
it
was
hard
to
laugh
sometimes
because
I
was
grieving
what
I
wanted
my
body
to
do
and
wasn't
doing
.
And
then
I
just
feel
like
,
because
I
went
through
some
trauma
with
some
doctors
or
you
know
it's
,
all
of
that
was
a
lot
that
if
you
don't
laugh
,
you
don't
heal
.
Speaker 2
11:05
No
,
I
agree
.
I
think
laughter
,
like
they
say
,
laughter
is
the
best
medicine
,
and
they
do
.
It
sounds
cliche
,
but
it
is
so
true
.
I
mean
,
we
have
laughed
our
way
through
a
lot
of
trauma
,
I
think
.
And
it
really
does
help
.
It
really
has
made
a
huge
impact
on
my
healing
and
how
I
feel
emotionally
and
now
we
have
great
jokes
and
we
have
a
great
time
.
Speaker 1
11:26
We
think
we're
really
funny
.
We
think
we're
so
funny
.
We
also
have
an
addiction
to
these
peach
drinks
from
Ziggy's
.
They
should
sponsor
us
.
Speaker 2
11:34
Yeah
,
no
,
we
really
do
need
that
sponsorship
.
I
feel
like
I
have
you
got
me
hooked
on
them
and
now
I've
gotten
,
like
all
of
my
outside
of
my
endo
group
,
all
of
my
other
girlfriends
hooked
on
them
.
My
friend
just
came
out
to
visit
from
Pennsylvania
and
I
took
her
to
Ziggy's
to
get
them
and
we
went
three
times
this
weekend
to
get
drinks
.
Speaker 1
11:50
I
know
.
Speaker 2
11:51
She's
like
can
we
go
to
Ziggy's
please
?
I
need
one
of
those
drinks
.
And
she
had
to
go
back
and
she
was
very
sad
that
they
don't
have
Ziggy's
out
there
so
.
Speaker 1
11:58
I
know
so
,
if
you're
ever
in
Colorado
.
Speaker 2
12:00
Go
get
the
peach
drink
at
Ziggy's
.
He
will
thank
us
.
It's
delicious
,
you
will
thank
us
,
it's
so
good
.
Speaker 1
12:05
But
I
mean
,
it's
always
like
,
hey
,
you
need
a
Ziggy's
,
yeah
,
I
need
to
Ziggy's
,
Right
.
Speaker 2
12:09
Yeah
.
Speaker 1
12:09
And
that's
our
love
language
between
each
other
.
I
love
it
.
Speaker 2
12:11
We're
like
when
I
know
she's
having
a
bad
day
.
I
go
to
Ziggy's
and
get
my
drink
and
I
bring
one
and
drop
it
by
her
house
on
my
way
home
.
I
literally
drive
20
minutes
to
Ziggy's
almost
and
get
my
drink
.
It's
terrible
.
It's
such
an
addiction
.
They're
putting
one
by
my
house
,
thankfully
,
but
it's
not
gonna
be
.
But
that's
not
so
,
thankfully
,
if
you
Right
.
No
,
it's
costing
me
a
fortune
.
Speaker 1
12:30
Yeah
,
I
know
,
we
need
that
sponsorship
.
Come
on
,
we
need
that
sponsorship
.
We're
not
sponsored
yet
.
Speaker 2
12:35
Yes
,
yeah
,
so
it
is
.
Community, Gratitude, and Chronic Illness
Speaker 2
12:39
I
mean
,
and
the
same
goes
for
you
You've
brought
me
Ziggy's
when
I
need
it
and
it's
like
hey
,
I
slept
two
hours
last
night
.
I'm
exhausted
.
It
was
up
all
night
.
I
had
hot
flashes
,
I
had
to
change
my
sheets
in
the
middle
of
the
night
because
I
was
so
sweaty
,
and
you
will
just
show
up
like
a
little
angel
from
heaven
,
from
the
goodies
heaven
,
to
bring
me
that
delicious
peach
drink
.
Speaker 1
13:00
So
I
would
like
to
think
that
I'm
an
angel
.
I'm
no
angel
.
Speaker 2
13:05
Oh
,
you
are
Well
.
No
,
maybe
not
.
Speaker 1
13:07
But
most
of
the
time
you
are
.
I'm
pretty
angelic
.
Sometimes
You're
pretty
angelic
.
I
mean
I
have
a
bell
that
I
ring
sometimes
to
call
my
family
.
Speaker 2
13:15
I'm
pretty
sure
I've
seen
a
halo
over
your
head
a
few
times
.
Speaker 1
13:18
Really
yeah
,
pretty
little
,
if
you
can
take
a
picture
next
time
,
I
can
prove
that
to
people
?
Speaker 1
13:21
Yeah
,
I'll
see
what
I
can
do
,
but
I
do
think
that
there's
value
in
having
gratitude
for
where
we're
at
and
where
we've
been
,
and
I
think
you
know
the
holidays
are
so
hard
for
so
many
people
and
it's
challenging
to
navigate
,
explaining
your
pain
,
your
fatigue
,
what
you're
going
through
to
family
members
that
maybe
don't
understand
it
,
and
or
functioning
through
all
the
different
things
that
we're
doing
on
a
daily
basis
,
whether
that's
cooking
,
cleaning
,
taking
care
of
family
members
,
trying
to
work
,
trying
to
walk
a
dog
.
And
then
you
add
the
holidays
to
that
and
it's
significantly
harder
and
the
stress
goes
up
,
inflammation
goes
up
,
flares
are
the
worst
during
the
holidays
,
and
so
just
having
that
community
in
that
base
of
okay
,
I
can
talk
to
someone
about
this
,
and
having
gratitude
for
that
too
,
yeah
,
it's
huge
.
Speaker 2
14:18
No
,
it
is
huge
.
I
am
so
grateful
for
you
,
for
the
other
women
on
our
team
that
we
have
here
.
It's
just
amazing
how
something
that
was
such
an
awful
point
in
my
life
and
such
an
awful
thing
to
experience
has
brought
so
much
joy
to
me
on
the
other
side
of
it
.
Yeah
,
with
these
friendships
and
the
relationships
that
we
have
with
each
other
,
it's
just
,
it's
magical
and
it's
nice
to
have
you
.
I'm
excited
for
the
holidays
,
actually
this
year
because
I
have
you
to
bounce
things
off
of
and
I
might
come
over
here
and
sleep
at
your
house
.
Speaker 1
14:50
You
can
,
If
you
can
get
past
.
She
hasn't
seen
my
giant
tree
that
I'm
getting
yet
,
but
I
usually
get
a
20
foot
Christmas
tree
.
Oh
,
that's
going
to
be
awesome
.
It
takes
up
this
whole
entryway
.
Speaker 2
15:00
I'm
really
.
I
love
the
people
that
put
Christmas
up
really
early
,
but
also
it
makes
me
feel
really
inadequate
.
Speaker 1
15:05
I'm
looking
behind
,
so
I'm
really
happy
that
I
showed
up
to
you
and
you
don't
have
a
Christmas
tree
.
I
saw
my
pumpkins
?
Speaker 1
15:09
Yeah
,
no
kind
of
the
squirrels
are
eating
more
than
half
of
them
.
I
usually
have
like
,
so
this
is
an
embarrassing
story
about
me
.
Every
year
we
go
to
this
pumpkin
patch
kind
of
close
to
our
house
and
they
have
the
best
pumpkins
because
they
have
all
the
different
colors
.
So
I'm
not
the
person
that
loves
just
big
,
round
orange
pumpkins
.
I
like
pumpkins
that
are
blue
,
green
,
pink
.
If
they
had
purple
ones
I'd
probably
have
those
too
.
I
love
gourds
.
I
love
little
warty
pumpkins
and
different
shapes
and
stuff
.
So
every
year
we
go
I'm
like
I'm
just
I'm
only
going
to
get
like
maybe
five
or
maybe
five
.
I
walked
away
with
92
pounds
of
pumpkins
.
Oh
my
gosh
.
Speaker 2
15:52
And
now
I
feel
like
that's
like
a
small
human
.
It's
more
than
my
kids
.
It's
more
than
my
kids
.
Speaker 1
15:59
It
weighs
more
than
my
kids
.
That's
like
a
teenager
.
That's
amazing
.
You
have
a
teenager's
weight
worth
of
pumpkins
,
yeah
,
and
I
actually
have
to
struggle
to
find
space
for
all
of
them
.
So
I
put
some
out
front
for
decoration
when
people
walk
in
,
because
I
love
fall
.
It's
my
favorite
season
and
the
squirrels
every
year
eat
them
,
and
everyone
else
has
pumpkins
on
their
porches
in
my
neighborhood
.
Do
you
think
they
get
eaten
?
Nope
,
they
just
know
you're
really
generous
.
Speaker 2
16:24
I
am
generous
with
my
pumpkins
.
They're
just
a
generous
human
and
they
know
that
they're
not
going
to
get
shot
at
.
They're
eating
your
pumpkins
.
Maybe
your
neighbors
?
They're
a
little
worried
,
I
don't
know
.
They
should
be
.
Speaker 1
16:34
Yeah
,
yeah
,
they
should
be
,
but
I
do
have
the
pumpkins
.
Speaker 2
16:39
But
then
I'm
at
her
house
and
she
has
a
lot
of
pumpkins
.
I
have
a
lot
of
pumpkins
.
There's
a
lot
of
pumpkins
here
.
Speaker 1
16:44
Yeah
,
I
do
have
a
lot
and
they're
like
all
different
.
I'll
have
to
take
a
picture
.
I'm
going
to
post
it
with
this
.
Speaker 2
16:49
Yeah
.
Speaker 1
16:50
So
you
guys
can
see
all
my
pumpkins
.
The
point
of
that
is
is
that
holidays
and
community
are
important
.
They're
so
important
and
having
a
relationship
where
you
can
just
come
and
just
digest
what
is
happening
in
your
life
or
having
someone
show
up
on
your
doorstep
with
something
that
you
need
,
is
so
important
,
and
I
think
that
with
the
Indimitriosis
community
,
these
people
are
made
different
.
Speaker 2
17:12
Yeah
,
oh
yes
.
Speaker 1
17:13
You
know
,
like
I
have
met
so
many
amazing
people
through
this
community
who
will
step
up
and
support
you
in
any
way
that
they
can
,
and
I
don't
know
if
that's
common
within
chronic
illness
communities
or
not
,
but
I
will
say
that
within
this
community
specifically
,
I
have
felt
so
welcomed
,
which
is
odd
to
say
.
I
feel
welcomed
in
a
chronic
illness
community
.
That
sounds
terrible
,
but
it's
true
because
people
want
to
help
you
Right
.
They
want
you
to
have
the
best
quality
life
.
Speaker 2
17:48
You
can
,
yeah
,
and
they
will
take
time
out
of
their
day
to
talk
with
you
,
to
explain
things
,
to
give
you
resources
and
refer
you
to
specialists
.
Speaker 2
17:58
And
I
mean
like
we
spend
a
lot
of
our
time
advocating
for
patients
in
Northern
Colorado
and
explaining
hey
,
you
know
,
these
are
the
doctors
that
people
have
had
great
luck
with
here
,
these
are
the
doctors
that
have
good
results
that
you
know
,
and
we
share
a
lot
of
that
information
and
I
think
,
I
would
like
to
think
,
that
we've
helped
quite
a
few
people
find
a
better
life
on
the
other
side
of
excision
surgery
and
all
the
other
things
that
come
with
that
.
Speaker 1
18:22
So
Well
,
I
think
it's
true
.
I
mean
,
I
see
it
worldwide
,
within
the
community
.
Speaker 1
18:27
Oh
yeah
,
and
you
just
have
to
reach
out
and
ask
for
support
and
people
are
there
for
you
and
support's
going
to
look
different
for
everyone
.
I
think
the
other
part
of
this
,
too
,
is
we
talk
about
support
,
but
support
might
look
different
for
you
.
Where
you
can
support
by
,
you
know
,
giving
material
that
is
good
,
evidence-based
material
,
yeah
.
Or
support
might
be
I
have
a
really
good
ear
to
listen
to
you
or
support
might
just
be
hey
,
here's
a
link
,
here's
a
position
to
go
,
or
place
to
go
,
here's
,
you
know
it's
support
and
gifts
within
supporting
are
all
different
.
Yes
.
Speaker 2
19:03
Yeah
,
it's
kind
of
like
the
love
language
thing
where
,
like
some
people
,
are
really
great
at
gift
giving
,
you
know
.
And
so
those
are
the
people
that
we
want
on
our
team
to
do
our
care
packages
for
patients
that
are
having
surgery
,
you
know
.
And
then
there's
some
people
who
are
great
at
listening
,
and
those
are
the
people
when
we're
having
the
bad
day
that
we
contact
,
and
so
we
do
have
a
good
group
of
patients
here
in
.
Speaker 1
19:25
Northern
.
Speaker 2
19:25
Colorado
that
we
can
bounce
things
off
of
and
that
I'll
have
their
different
strengths
and
weaknesses
.
And
we
really
work
to
play
into
those
with
them
and
and
it's
different
for
everybody
,
everybody
is
a
little
bit
different
in
what
they're
doing
.
I
do
think
it's
important
to
you
know
for
those
that
are
listening
.
The Power of Online Support Groups
Speaker 2
19:42
You
know
we
have
an
in-person
support
group
but
,
finding
support
in
any
way
that
you
can
.
You
know
we're
blessed
with
social
media
.
It's
a
blessing
and
a
curse
.
Speaker 1
19:50
I
feel
like
yes
.
Speaker 2
19:52
Oh
,
and
I
complain
a
lot
about
Facebook
.
Speaker 1
19:55
They
need
to
get
their
act
together
and
make
things
better
.
That's
all
I
have
to
say
.
Speaker 2
19:58
Yeah
,
come
on
,
Mark
Zuckerberg
.
Speaker 1
20:01
Yeah
,
we're
like
together
here
.
Is
he
still
in
Facebook
?
I
don't
even
know
.
I
don't
even
know
.
I
think
he's
a
robot
.
Speaker 2
20:09
So
you
know
we
talk
about
community
and
we
talk
about
in-person
and
you
know
finding
your
people
locally
if
you
can
.
But
if
you
don't
have
that
ability
you
don't
have
that
opportunity
.
Maybe
you're
in
a
rural
area
or
there's
just
you
know
you're
not
wanting
to
put
yourself
out
there
to
find
those
people
.
Online
can
be
a
really
great
place
for
support
.
It's
amazing
the
support
that
I
found
through
different
groups
and
it's
just
.
It's
really
helped
a
lot
,
like
my
mom
had
.
My
mom
and
I
both
have
a
rare
vascular
compression
disorder
.
It's
called
Maytherner
Syndrome
and
she
was
diagnosed
in
the
early
2000s
and
after
years
and
years
and
decades
of
drama
and
pain
and
misery
and
all
this
stuff
and
she
had
no
community
she
doesn't
know
anybody
else
that
has
this
Right
.
There
is
nobody
that
she
could
be
like
hey
,
I'm
having
a
bad
day
,
hey
,
my
leg
hurts
,
this
and
this
is
going
on
,
I
have
another
blood
clot
,
I
have
this
issue
.
There's
nobody
for
her
to
talk
to
.
Speaker 2
21:05
And
now
I
have
the
same
.
You
know
,
I
was
diagnosed
with
the
same
condition
a
few
years
ago
and
it's
amazing
.
I'm
in
a
group
with
like
4,000
other
patients
and
we
can
bounce
stuff
off
each
other
.
We
can
share
our
doctors
,
we
can
share
our
experiences
.
These
things
worked
really
well
for
me
.
This
didn't
work
.
This
is
a
great
plan
.
This
wasn't
great
for
me
,
and
it's
just
.
It
makes
me
so
sad
when
I
think
about
my
mom
going
through
,
you
know
,
decades
of
this
pain
and
misery
by
herself
,
with
nobody
that
understands
it
,
because
it's
a
rare
.
They
say
it's
rare
.
It's
probably
not
as
rare
as
I
think
it
is
.
Speaker 1
21:38
Yeah
,
and
in
vitreous
.
This
was
really
when
I
first
got
there
.
Speaker 2
21:41
They
always
say
,
oh
,
this
is
so
rare
,
and
it's
like
,
oh
,
actually
everybody
has
it
pretty
much
so
you're
like
I
can
count
them
on
all
my
fingers
and
toes
Right
yeah
.
Speaker 2
21:48
So
you
know
,
and
it
probably
would
have
made
a
huge
impact
on
her
if
she
would
have
had
that
support
you
know
,
I
mean
,
she
had
her
family
and
we
understood
because
we
watched
her
go
through
it
,
and
but
it
would
have
made
a
huge
difference
,
I
think
,
and
so
it's
.
It's
important
to
use
those
resources
that
are
available
to
you
.
There
are
a
lot
of
support
groups
out
there
,
and
if
there
isn't
one
,
start
one
for
your
community
Right
.
Start
something
.
All
you
have
to
do
is
get
together
,
that's
it
.
Just
find
some
like-minded
people
.
Find
them
online
.
Find
them
in
person
,
however
,
you
have
to
find
them
,
but
it
makes
a
huge
difference
.
Speaker 2
22:20
It
has
completely
changed
my
life
in
such
a
good
way
,
finding
you
guys
.
Speaker 1
22:25
Yeah
,
I
mean
and
that's
what
I
was
saying
too
is
like
I've
had
a
friend
group
for
a
long
time
and
I
love
them
,
but
this
is
it's
a
different
field
,
it's
a
different
dynamic
of
support
.
It's
a
different
kind
of
friendship
.
And
and
they're
all
great
and
we
need
them
all
because
if
we
inundate
ourselves
with
just
endometriosis
,
right
.
Speaker 2
22:48
Oh
,
that's
a
lot
.
Speaker 1
22:49
It's
a
big
,
I
mean
it's
.
It's
heavy
.
It
can
be
really
,
really
heavy
,
and
we
deal
with
things
constantly
that
are
more
and
more
challenging
every
day
.
Navigating
this
disease
is
not
easy
and
it's
certainly
you
should
never
do
it
alone
,
but
sometimes
you
have
to
step
out
of
that
and
have
other
community
people
too
.
You
know
you
have
to
have
another
support
system
,
but
I
also
think
that's
part
of
like
education
,
because
you
have
,
like
,
one
of
your
best
friends
knows
more
about
endometriosis
now
and
has
been
able
to
help
other
people
right
with
diagnosis
and
other
ways
of
like
.
Hey
,
that
sounds
like
it
could
be
endometriosis
.
Have
you
ever
heard
about
that
,
you
know
?
Speaker 2
23:28
yeah
,
and
really
I
mean
it's
from
her
listening
to
me
bitch
and
moan
for
the
We've
been
friends
since
we
were
16
.
So
she's
been
along
with
me
on
this
ride
,
with
me
from
almost
day
one
and
it's
amazing
her
talking
to
her
,
she
sounds
like
an
endometriosis
advocate
.
Speaker 2
23:43
When
I
talk
to
her
about
stuff
,
she'll
be
like
oh
,
did
you
see
I've
?
She
follows
a
lot
of
the
endometriosis
surgeons
that
we
are
friends
with
and
that
we
follow
.
And
did
you
see
this
?
There's
new
research
,
there's
this
.
Did
you
see
this
person's
here
and
doing
these
things
and
received
this
award
?
And
it's
so
fun
watching
her
like
be
my
little
,
like
mini
best
friend
advocate
and
it's
one
of
my
favorite
things
and
she
really
has
helped
a
lot
of
people
.
Same
thing
I
have
a
neighbor
who
is
the
same
way
like
as
soon
as
somebody
says
anything
about
their
periods
,
she
will
be
like
I
have
the
person
you
have
to
learn
about
this
.
This
is
what
this
is
.
If
you
it
,
it's
probably
going
to
be
crazy
information
and
it
might
be
wrong
.
So
call
her
,
here's
her
number
and
she
knows
like
she
fights
for
people
to
get
good
information
and
it's
awesome
.
And
that's
the
other
thing
is
like
growing
our
community
outside
of
the
just
the
patients
into
the
supporting
people
of
the
patients
and
how
they
can
impact
other
people's
health
in
their
lives
.
Speaker 1
24:39
Yeah
,
I'm
so
grateful
for
you
,
I'm
so
grateful
for
this
community
,
I'm
so
grateful
for
all
of
you
listeners
who
have
impacted
my
life
in
such
a
positive
way
and
this
has
been
such
a
fun
journey
to
walk
with
people
on
.
It's
been
hard
,
it's
been
challenging
and
it's
been
heartbreaking
at
times
,
but
it's
also
really
,
really
rewarding
and
I'm
so
grateful
that
I
have
the
listeners
and
the
support
people
behind
me
.
That's
ever
all
the
people
that
have
come
on
the
podcast
.
To
the
people
that
maybe
you
don't
hear
the
voices
of
us
as
often
,
they're
still
there
.
They're
still
being
my
cheerleaders
and
helping
me
and
figuring
out
.
You
know
,
here's
some
really
good
information
you
should
talk
about
here's
.
You
know
,
yeah
,
and
just
having
that
,
that
support
outside
of
just
friends
,
its
support
in
the
community
,
and
it's
so
needed
and
that
is
how
we
will
heal
as
a
community
,
that
is
how
we
will
grow
,
and
I
do
think
having
gratitude
is
going
to
really
allow
us
the
energy
and
space
to
keep
going
.
Speaker 2
25:47
I
agree
,
gratitude
is
one
of
the
most
important
things
,
I
think
,
and
it's
hard
to
find
that
sometimes
when
you're
in
it
.
Yeah
,
when
you
wake
up
every
day
and
you're
miserable
,
but
it's
like
,
hey
,
I'm
grateful
I
found
the
surgeon
I
found
I'm
grateful
that
I
was
able
to
have
the
surgery
that
.
I
had
I'm
grateful
that
I
have
an
awesome
pelvic
floor
physical
therapist
.
That
is
one
of
the
funniest
people
I've
ever
met
.
Speaker 1
26:08
We
love
her
,
we
love
her
.
Speaker 2
26:09
Hilarious
,
so
funny
,
so
fun
.
She's
the
best
.
So
you
know
,
and
it's
sometimes
it's
just
finding
those
things
,
and
then
there's
some
days
where
it's
like
you
know
what
the
only
thing
I'm
grateful
for
is
my
peachy
drink
.
Speaker 1
26:22
Ziggy's
,
and
that's
all
I
can
find
gratitude
for
$8
a
piece
Ziggy's
.
Come
on
,
I
can't
afford
that
.
Speaker 2
26:30
We're
going
broke
on
your
drinks
,
but
sometimes
that's
it
,
you
know
sometimes
you
have
days
,
but
it's
most
of
them
tend
to
be
better
than
that
,
and
a
lot
of
that
is
because
we
have
this
community
and
absolutely
each
other
to
pull
each
other
out
of
the
funk
when
we
get
Gratitude and Community Support
Speaker 2
26:43
into
it
.
Speaker 1
26:43
So
,
and
if
it's
hard
to
find
gratitude
,
there
is
one
thing
you
can
be
grateful
for
is
that
there's
others
in
this
with
you
.
Absolutely
,
yeah
.
So
that's
what
we
want
to
just
impart
with
you
is
that
gratitude
makes
a
huge
difference
,
but
I
am
so
grateful
for
this
community
and
the
way
that
it
supports
one
another
.
We
hear
you
,
we
see
you
and
we
want
to
live
in
this
journey
with
you
so
that
we
can
all
do
it
better
together
.
Absolutely
,
so
,
until
next
time
,
enjoy
your
Thanksgiving
and
continue
advocating
for
you
and
for
those
that
you
love
.
Thanks
,
chelsea
,
thank
you
,
alana
.