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As we close out the year, we’re taking a moment to reflect on two transformative episodes that shaped the journey of Endo Battery. This Endo Year Reflection episode honors the legacy of the late Dr. David Redwine, a pioneer who revolutionized endometriosis care, and explores the growth and evolution of Dr. Jenn Jaggi, a surgeon committed to redefining standards of treatment.
In Episode 51, we revisit an unforgettable conversation with Dr. Redwine—his brilliance, humor, and groundbreaking research on the origins of endometriosis. His relentless drive to question outdated surgical standards gave countless patients the chance to reclaim their lives. As we remember his profound contributions, we also carry forward the hope he ignited in the endometriosis community.
In Episode 72, we reflect on the inspiring journey of Dr. Jenn Jaggi. Once limited by traditional training, Dr. Jaggi embraced advanced education to transform her approach to endometriosis and adenomyosis care. From hands-on imaging techniques to challenging outdated diagnostic norms, her story is a testament to the power of unlearning, relearning, and committing to better care for patients.
🎧 Episode Highlights:
- Dr. David Redwine’s pioneering research and lasting legacy.
- How Dr. Jenn Jaggi’s advanced training is reshaping endometriosis care.
- Insights into diagnostic innovations and breaking misconceptions about adenomyosis.
This reflection isn’t just about revisiting episodes; it’s about celebrating progress and carrying lessons forward into the new year. Tune in to be inspired by these stories of advocacy, innovation, and hope for better outcomes in endometriosis care.
🔗 Catch Episode 51 with Dr. Redwine and Episode 72 with Dr. Jaggi for the full conversations!
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Reflection on Endometriosis Journey & Legacy
Speaker 1
0:02
Welcome
to
EndoBattery
,
where
I
share
my
journey
with
endometriosis
and
chronic
illness
,
while
learning
and
growing
along
the
way
.
This
podcast
is
not
a
substitute
for
medical
advice
,
but
a
supportive
space
to
provide
community
and
valuable
information
so
you
never
have
to
face
this
journey
alone
.
We
embrace
a
range
of
perspectives
that
may
not
always
align
with
our
own
.
Believing
that
open
dialogue
helps
us
grow
and
gain
new
tools
always
align
with
our
own
.
Believing
that
open
dialogue
helps
us
grow
and
gain
new
tools
.
Join
me
as
I
share
stories
of
strength
,
resilience
and
hope
,
from
personal
experiences
to
expert
insights
.
I'm
your
host
,
alana
,
and
this
is
Indobattery
charging
our
lives
when
endometriosis
drains
us
.
Welcome
back
to
Indobattery
.
Grab
your
cup
of
coffee
or
your
cup
of
tea
and
join
me
at
the
table
.
As
the
year
comes
to
a
close
,
I
find
myself
looking
back
on
all
the
EndoBattery
episodes
.
We've
shared
Conversations
that
have
inspired
me
,
challenged
me
and
helped
me
piece
together
the
intricate
puzzle
that
is
my
health
journey
.
This
reflection
isn't
just
about
my
story
,
though
.
It's
about
ours
.
Together
,
we've
tackled
tough
topics
,
asked
hard
questions
and
found
moments
of
validation
and
clarity
.
The
end-of-year
reflection
series
is
my
way
of
revisiting
those
episodes
that
left
a
mark
,
moments
that
I
believe
are
worth
pausing
to
appreciate
again
.
With
the
holiday
season
upon
us
,
I
know
how
precious
time
is
.
It's
easy
to
feel
overwhelmed
and
even
harder
to
find
space
to
recharge
.
But
recharging
shouldn't
feel
like
another
item
on
the
to-do
list
it's
essential
.
That's
why
this
series
is
designed
to
be
taken
in
small
doses
,
bite-sized
reflections
that
I
hope
will
leave
you
feeling
recharged
rather
than
drained
.
Together
,
let's
look
back
,
celebrate
the
insights
we've
gained
and
carry
them
forward
into
the
new
year
with
renewed
energy
and
hope
.
So
cozy
up
and
let's
start
reflecting
on
the
moments
that
have
shaped
us
this
year
,
because
you're
not
alone
and
together
we're
finding
the
power
to
move
forward
.
Let's
dive
in
.
These
episodes
wouldn't
be
possible
without
the
diligence
,
passions
and
persistence
of
one
man
who
changed
the
narrative
of
endometriosis
surgery
forever
.
Episode
51
with
Dr
David
Redwine
wasn't
new
this
year
,
but
it's
one
I
couldn't
leave
out
of
this
reflection
series
.
Speaker 1
2:14
With
the
passing
of
Dr
Redwine
,
I
was
reminded
just
how
fleeting
life
really
is
.
Before
his
passing
,
chelsea
and
I
had
the
honor
of
sitting
down
with
him
as
he
walked
us
through
what
would
become
his
final
presentation
on
the
origins
of
endometriosis
.
He
was
kind
,
funny
and
absolutely
brilliant
.
A
true
pioneer
,
or
,
in
his
words
,
emperor
,
whose
insights
could
blow
your
mind
and
shift
how
you
understood
the
disease
.
If
it
weren't
for
Dr
Redwine's
relentless
drive
to
question
surgical
care
and
push
for
something
better
,
I
wouldn't
be
sitting
here
today
.
I'd
still
be
trapped
in
relentless
pain
,
weighed
down
by
overwhelming
fatigue
and
fighting
for
even
a
moment
of
relief
.
His
work
transformed
what
care
could
look
like
and
gave
so
many
of
us
a
chance
to
reclaim
our
lives
.
Speaker 1
3:03
What
always
amazed
me
about
Dr
Redwine
was
how
deeply
he
sought
to
understand
the
origins
of
endometriosis
,
not
just
to
treat
it
better
,
but
to
rewrite
how
it's
perceived
,
diagnosed
and
ultimately
lived
with
.
His
legacy
lives
on
in
every
patient
who
finds
relief
because
of
the
standards
he
fought
for
.
So
,
as
we
reflect
,
let's
honor
the
foundation
he
laid
for
us
.
So
,
as
we
reflect
,
let's
honor
the
foundation
he
laid
for
us
all
.
Take
a
moment
to
listen
to
this
unforgettable
conversation
,
one
that
captures
his
brilliance
,
his
humor
,
his
profound
impact
.
Dr
Redwine's
work
changed
lives
and
I
hope
revisiting
this
episode
will
inspire
you
as
much
as
it
did
me
.
Let's
take
a
listen
.
Speaker 2
3:44
Episode
will
inspire
you
as
much
as
it
did
me
.
Let's
take
a
listen
.
I
first
heard
about
Samson's
theory
of
reflux
menstruation
as
the
origin
of
endometriosis
when
I
was
in
medical
school
and
I
recall
distinctly
now
that
when
I
heard
it
I
laughed
almost
out
loud
.
It
sounded
preposterous
.
Okay
,
fine
,
went
through
medical
school
,
internship
,
I
decided
I
wanted
to
go
into
OBGYN
because
you
could
do
surgery
,
you
could
do
medicine
,
you
can
do
a
little
bit
of
pediatrics
you
can
do
.
You
know
,
you're
treating
kind
of
several
different
cross
specialties
,
and
so
that
appealed
to
me
.
I
kind
of
envisioned
myself
being
a
surgeon
as
I
was
growing
up
and
that's
what
eventually
happened
.
Speaker 2
4:32
So
anyway
,
I
met
and
married
my
first
wife
while
in
medical
school
at
Baylor
College
of
Medicine
in
Houston
,
texas
that
was
in
1970
.
And
she
,
unbeknownst
to
her
,
she
had
endometriosis
and
she
was
always
talking
about
pelvic
pain
and
pelvic
pain
throughout
the
month
and
intercourse
was
painful
and
this
was
kind
of
all
new
to
me
in
a
sense
.
When
I
got
out
of
medical
school
and
going
to
internship
and
residency
,
she
continued
to
have
these
problems
and
so
she
was
seen
by
a
gynecologist
a
general
gynecologist
in
Portland
,
where
we
were
,
where
I
was
undergoing
training
,
and
Vincent
,
she
had
laparoscopy
and
endometriosis
was
found
and
we
were
told
well
,
there
wasn't
very
much
and
we
burned
it
,
so
she
should
be
fine
.
Well
,
she
wasn't
fine
,
and
so
when
I
got
through
my
training
and
was
going
to
.
Speaker 2
5:25
Bend
,
oregon
,
to
open
up
my
practice
,
my
wife
still
had
the
same
degree
of
problem
.
She
had
been
put
on
birth
control
pills
,
which
really
didn't
help
.
She
had
also
,
along
the
way
,
been
put
on
Danazol
,
which
really
didn't
help
.
And
so
we
went
to
Bend
and
I
talked
with
one
of
my
partners
about
you
know
,
my
wife
,
that
she
might
have
endometriosis
still
and
everything
that
a
patient
with
endometriosis
encounters
.
We
encountered
along
the
way
.
My
wife
was
dismissed
,
endometriosis
itself
was
dismissed
.
It's
just
endometriosis
,
you
know
,
blah
,
blah
,
blah
.
And
we
realized
,
as
many
patients
with
endometriosis
realize
,
eventually
,
that
you
have
to
fight
to
make
any
forward
progress
.
And
so
my
wife
was
no
better
.
And
so
we
went
to
one
of
my
former
partners
and
said
look
,
we
think
she
needs
surgery
.
She's
had
birth
control
pills
,
she's
had
Danazol
,
she's
had
the
endometriosis
burned
at
laparoscopy
.
Can
we
just
cut
the
disease
out
?
And
he
kind
of
went
like
that
and
said
what
you
want
me
to
let
me
get
this
straight
you
want
me
to
remove
the
disease
from
the
body
.
And
we
said
yeah
,
that's
right
.
Speaker 3
6:37
Shocking
,
that's
right
.
Speaker 2
6:39
We
want
the
disease
out
of
the
body
.
Speaker 3
6:41
Yeah
.
Speaker 2
6:41
And
he
said
that's
just
not
done
.
And
I
said
well
,
you
know
what
?
Nothing
else
has
worked
,
just
do
it
.
No-transcript
.
And
he
had
to
do
a
laparotomy
,
but
he
cut
the
disease
out
.
She
woke
up
in
the
recovery
room
pain-free
.
I
had
already
been
seeing
in
my
own
patients
a
little
bit
of
endometriosis
,
and
so
when
I
saw
that
my
goal
to
have
the
disease
removed
from
the
body
would
result
in
relief
of
symptoms
,
which
at
one
level
is
a
very
simple
connection
I
mean
,
that's
what
we
do
in
medicine
,
but
at
another
level
it's
the
profession
is
so
in
control
of
people
who
don't
know
much
about
endometriosis
I
mean
then
and
now
that
there
was
all
this
confusion
and
contradiction
and
such
.
So
I
was
able
to
kind
of
cut
through
it
with
my
wife
.
I
saw
the
results
in
her
.
I
was
seeing
the
same
results
in
my
patients
.
Speaker 1
7:39
What
started
with
Dr
Redwine's
groundbreaking
work
didn't
stop
with
him
.
He
passed
the
torch
to
his
fellow
Dr
Cindy
Mosbreker
,
who
we'll
reflect
on
in
another
episode
,
and
now
her
fellow
Dr
Jen
Yagy
,
in
episode
72,
.
I
had
the
opportunity
to
sit
down
with
Dr
Jen
Yagi
,
an
OBGYN
who
spent
years
passionately
practicing
medicine
and
performing
surgeries
.
Yet
,
like
so
many
in
her
field
,
she
was
limited
by
the
scope
of
her
training
.
What
struck
me
during
our
conversation
was
her
honesty
,
her
acknowledgement
that
for
a
long
time
she
believed
she
was
providing
the
best
care
for
her
endometriosis
patients
.
She
truly
thought
she
knew
almost
all
there
was
to
know
about
this
disease
.
Speaker 1
8:20
I
often
say
we
do
the
best
with
what
we
know
.
That's
not
just
true
for
patients
navigating
their
health
journeys
,
it's
true
for
our
providers
as
well
.
Dr
Yagi's
experience
is
a
testament
to
the
importance
of
continuing
education
,
of
seeking
out
new
knowledge
,
even
when
we
think
we've
mastered
something
.
In
this
episode
,
dr
Yagi
shares
her
journey
of
unlearning
,
relearning
and
committing
to
better
care
for
her
patients
.
Her
story
is
both
humbling
and
inspiring
,
a
reminder
that
it's
never
too
late
to
grow
and
do
better
.
Take
a
listen
as
Dr
Yagi
opens
up
about
her
experience
and
how
stepping
into
advanced
training
transformed
her
approach
to
endometriosis
care
.
Speaker 3
9:04
I
do
think
when
you
go
through
OBGYN
residency
,
I
think
we
are
well
trained
to
diagnose
those
classic
cases
of
endometriosis
.
But
it's
the
ones
who
maybe
don't
follow
the
classic
story
that
I
look
back
and
wonder
about
patients
where
I
missed
that
diagnosis
.
I
was
thinking
about
it
as
an
example
,
like
I
think
it
was
just
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
I
was
seeing
a
patient
for
a
new
consultation
and
I
remember
when
I
was
presenting
it
to
Dr
Mosbroker
I
said
you
know
,
on
first
glance
like
this
didn't
seem
like
a
classic
story
to
me
,
but
you
know
she's
been
on
OCPs
this
whole
time
,
so
you
know
,
I
think
it
was
probably
suppressed
.
She
was
a
patient
who
was
having
more
bowel
symptoms
and
more
bladder
symptoms
and
the
pain
really
hadn't
become
an
issue
until
she
stopped
birth
control
.
And
you
know
,
as
I
was
presenting
,
I
was
like
this
is
the
kind
of
patient
that
,
yeah
,
I
think
a
couple
of
years
ago
I
would
have
more
quickly
jumped
to
like
,
oh
,
this
is
probably
GI
or
you
know
she
should
be
seen
for
a
workup
,
for
IBS
or
brain
recidivitis
,
and
not
kind
of
have
put
the
you
know
the
more
subtle
things
together
.
Speaker 3
10:04
Yeah
,
I
do
and
I
think
about
,
you
know
,
the
patients
that
I
had
where
I
did
ablation
of
endometriosis
or
or
,
honestly
,
even
the
ones
you
know
.
I
can
think
of
one
case
where
I
was
planning
to
do
a
laparoscopic
hysterectomy
for
fibroids
and
adenomyosis
and
got
in
and
it
was
,
you
know
,
a
much
more
complex
case
of
stage
four
endometriosis
.
And
in
that
case
,
you
know
,
I
recognized
that
that
was
above
my
surgical
skill
set
and
we
called
it
a
diagnostic
laparoscopy
.
You
know
she
just
ended
up
with
one
or
two
small
incisions
and
then
referred
her
on
to
the
closest
tertiary
care
center
for
what
I
thought
would
be
,
you
know
,
a
minimally
invasive
procedure
.
She
ended
up
having
an
open
hysterectomy
.
Speaker 3
10:49
I
think
had
her
ovary
taken
out
as
well
.
I
think
oncology
ended
up
doing
the
case
.
When
I
think
back
,
I
was
like
,
I
mean
,
even
in
all
of
New
Mexico
I
don't
think
there
are
many
true
excision
specialists
Now
I
would
know
,
like
you
know
,
there
may
have
been
somewhere
in
Arizona
or
you
know
somewhere
where
she
could
have
had
a
truly
minimally
invasive
procedure
.
Speaker 3
11:12
But
you
know
,
you
,
I
guess
,
do
the
best
that
you
can
with
the
knowledge
that
you
have
at
the
time
and
you
know
,
I
think
,
at
least
with
that
case
you
know
,
I
guess
,
do
the
best
that
you
can
with
the
knowledge
that
you
have
at
the
time
and
you
know
,
I
think
at
least
with
that
case
,
you
know
I
as
a
physician
,
you
learn
first
,
do
no
harm
.
Speaker 3
11:23
You
know
I
didn't
go
into
a
surgery
that
I
thought
was
above
my
gill
set
.
It's
sad
to
think
that
even
with
referring
her
on
,
you
know
she
may
not
have
had
the
most
optimal
surgery
.
It's
interesting
because
I
feel
like
I
really
was
seeking
out
more
surgical
training
,
because
I
think
that's
a
more
obvious
you
know
,
you
more
clearly
see
,
tools
in
your
toolbox
are
lacking
,
like
I
knew
,
stage
three
endometriosis
cases
are
not
something
that
I
can
do
after
finishing
a
general
OBGYN
residency
.
But
I
think
you
know
we
leave
residency
feeling
like
we
have
the
medical
,
you
know
knowledge
and
I
think
that's
the
part
that
,
in
a
way
,
has
almost
been
more
surprising
with
doing
this
fellowship
.
Just
that
I
may
not
been
asking
the
right
questions
or
just
yeah
,
again
,
like
you
mentioned
,
thinking
about
those
patients
where
I
may
have
missed
the
diagnosis
,
even
though
I
thought
I
was
being
thorough
.
Transformation in Endometriosis Care
Speaker 1
12:15
Dr
Yagi
has
been
incredibly
vulnerable
in
sharing
how
this
fellowship
has
transformed
her
perspective
,
not
just
as
a
surgeon
,
but
as
a
provider
deeply
committed
to
improving
care
.
What
I
especially
loved
about
our
conversation
is
how
she
broke
down
practices
she
once
thought
were
standard
for
diagnosing
and
treating
conditions
like
endometriosis
and
adenomyosis
.
Now
she's
utilizing
new
techniques
and
seeing
things
differently
.
For
instance
,
she
discussed
how
adenomyosis
isn't
limited
to
those
who've
had
C-sections
a
misconception
she
once
held
but
has
since
unraveled
through
advanced
training
.
She
also
emphasized
the
importance
of
ultrasounds
,
but
not
in
the
traditional
sense
of
simply
looking
at
a
fetus
through
the
lens
of
a
technician
,
but
not
in
the
traditional
sense
of
simply
looking
at
a
fetus
through
the
lens
of
a
technician
.
Instead
,
she's
taken
on
a
hands-on
approach
,
using
imaging
as
a
critical
tool
to
truly
understand
what's
happening
in
the
body
.
Take
a
moment
to
listen
to
Dr
Yaghi's
reflections
.
It's
a
conversation
that
challenges
old
assumptions
and
shines
a
light
on
the
progress
being
made
.
Speaker 3
13:17
But
like
,
for
instance
,
adenomyosis
,
where
we
were
kind
of
taught
as
something
that
is
more
an
issue
of
women
who
have
had
multiple
pregnancies
and
can
only
be
diagnosed
at
time
of
hysterectomy
.
But
you
know
,
I'm
seeing
a
fair
number
of
patients
that
have
not
had
any
children
and
are
,
you
know
,
in
their
early
20s
,
even
where
their
symptoms
are
classic
for
adenomyosis
and
then
the
ultrasound
suggests
adenomyosis
and
when
you
look
in
at
time
of
surgery
,
see
again
,
you
know
the
gold
standard
really
still
is
to
only
make
that
diagnosis
at
time
of
hysterectomy
.
But
yeah
,
I've
been
learning
there's
a
lot
of
other
ways
that
you
can
almost
make
that
diagnosis
.
Ultrasound
is
another
thing
where
you
know
I
was
doing
quite
a
bit
of
ultrasound
as
a
general
OBGYN
,
but
usually
in
another
thing
where
you
know
I
was
doing
quite
a
bit
of
ultrasound
as
a
general
OBGYN
,
but
usually
in
the
context
of
,
you
know
,
an
early
pregnancy
,
ruling
out
abnormalities
there
and
not
really
thinking
about
ultrasound
as
something
that
can
give
you
hints
that
there
may
be
endometriosis
,
you
know
.
Speaker 3
14:11
So
usually
for
ultrasounds
that
I
wasn't
doing
for
you
know
,
like
someone
walking
in
with
abnormal
bleeding
and
a
positive
pregnancy
test
,
more
often
if
we
were
wanting
to
look
at
the
uterus
or
the
ovaries
,
we
would
order
the
ultrasound
.
It
would
get
done
in
radiology
.
So
you
know
,
we
order
it
,
then
the
tech
takes
the
images
and
then
it
gets
sent
to
the
radiologist
who
looks
at
those
static
images
and
then
a
couple
days
later
you
get
the
report
back
and
you
know
,
often
it
would
say
you
know
just
that
the
uterus
was
a
normal
size
,
there
were
,
there
was
maybe
a
physiologic
cyst
on
the
ovary
,
or
you
know
essentially
that
it
was
unremarkable
.
Speaker 1
14:46
Right
.
Speaker 3
14:48
Now
you
know
,
with
every
consult
that
I'm
doing
with
Dr
Mossberger
,
we
do
an
ultrasound
while
the
patient's
there
and
there's
really
just
so
much
more
that
you
can
see
with
the
ultrasound
if
you
kind
of
use
it
as
a
tool
in
real
time
.
Speaker 3
14:59
You
know
you
can
see
if
the
ovaries
are
tethered
or
stuck
to
the
sidewall
,
if
the
ovaries
are
stuck
to
the
uterus
,
if
there's
movement
between
the
cervix
and
the
rectum
and
you
know
and
more
subtle
signs
of
adenomyosis
,
you
can
see
as
well
.
And
again
,
that's
something
that
I've
been
doing
ultrasound
for
years
but
never
really
thought
of
it
as
a
way
to
look
for
some
of
the
markers
of
endometriosis
.
Speaker 1
15:24
In
this
episode
,
dr
Yaghi
shares
her
journey
of
unlearning
,
relearning
and
committing
to
providing
better
care
for
her
patients
.
Her
story
is
both
humbling
and
inspiring
,
a
powerful
reminder
that
it's
never
too
late
to
grow
,
evolve
and
strive
for
better
.
I
hope
this
episode
inspires
you
as
much
as
it
inspired
me
.
If
you're
looking
to
dive
deeper
,
I
highly
recommend
revisiting
episode
51
with
Dr
David
Redwine
and
episode
72
with
Dr
Jen
Yagi
.
Reflecting
on
these
conversations
left
me
feeling
empowered
to
continue
my
advocacy
efforts
and
I
have
no
doubt
they'll
do
the
same
for
you
.
Thank
you
for
taking
the
time
to
reflect
and
recharge
with
me
.
Don't
forget
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our
next
Endo
your
Reflection
episode
.
Until
next
time
,
continue
advocating
for
you
and
for
those
that
you
love
.