QC: Providers For Fibroids and Endo: Do Endometriomas Mean Deep Disease?

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Dr. Jeff Arrington, renowned excision specialist and patient advocate, joins Quick Connect to debunk misinformation and empower patients with expert insights on endometriosis care. He breaks down the complexities of excision surgery, the connection between fibroids and endometriosis, and the critical need for proper referrals. Plus, he explains why endometriomas signal deeper disease and why honest surgical discussions are essential.

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Meet Dr. Jeff Arrington

Speaker 1
0:41

Today

I

have

an

incredible

expert

joining

us

Dr

Jeff

Arrington
.

If

you've

spent

any

time

in

the

endometriosis

community
,

you've

probably

heard

his

name
.

Dr

Arrington

isn't

just

an

excision

specialist
.

He's

a

fierce

advocate

for

informed

consent

and

breaking

down

the

barriers

that

keep

so

many

from

accessing

proper

endometriosis

care
.

His

passion

goes

beyond

the

operating

room
.

He's

fighting

for

real

change
,

pushing

back

against

misinformation

and

making

sure

that

patients

have

the

knowledge

and

options

they

deserve
.

Let's

dive

in
.

Can

the

same

provider

address

fibroids

and

endometriosis

and

still

be

considered

endometriosis

specialist
?

Specialists Handling Fibroids and Endometriosis

Speaker 2
1:19

Short

answer

to

that

is

yes
.

I

mean

endometriosis

by

far

is

the

most

difficult

surgery

that

you

know

benign

gynecologists

do
.

Fibroids

are

quite

a

bit

easier

than

endometriosis

surgery
.

I

mean

there

are

a

number

of

us

that

do

both

Honestly
.

Speaker 2
1:34

My
,

you

know
,

I

kind

of

I

personally

approach

fibroids

the

same

way

that

I

would

hope

that

other

doctors

would

approach

endometriosis
.

And

you

know

patients

that

have

complex

endo

and

really

complex

fibroids

like

either

really

big

fibroids

or

multiple

fibroids
,

those

things

I

mean

I

can

do

fibroids
.

But

there

are

doctors

who

do

a

lot

more

fibroid

surgeries

than

I

do

and

probably

do

a

better

job

than

I

do

with

complex

fibroid

removal
.

So

I

know

when

I

was

in

Atlanta

occasionally

we'd

have

a

patient

like

that

and

I

would

team

up

with

Dr

Sawyer

Hawkins
,

who

we

would

just

tag

team

the

surgery
.

You

know

I

think

that

she

had

more
.

She

clearly

has

more

experience

with

fibroids

than

I

do
,

just

because

I

have

such

a

heavy

focus

on

endo
.

Speaker 2
2:17

And

here

I've

got

a

couple

docs

that

do

quite

a

few

fibroids

and

if

needed

I

team

up

with

them
.

Let

them

do

the

fibroid

part

and

I

do

the

endo
.

But

you

know
,

in

cases

where

it

needs

to

be

done
,

I

mean
.

My

training

included

fibroid

removal

and

I

can

do

them
.

I

enjoy

the

endometriosis

more

you

know
.

Short

answer

is

you

know

doctors

can

do

fibroids

and

endo
.

The

main

key

is

being

focused

on

the

endo

and

appropriate

training

and

approach

to

endometriosis
.

And

then

the

fibroids

are

typically

an

easier

part

of

that
.

Endometriomas and Deep Endometriosis

Speaker 1
2:48

Does

having

an

endometrioma

always

indicate

deep

disease
?

Speaker 2
2:52

Always

is

the

key

word
.

It's

not

always
,

but

having

an

endometrioma

I

think

Dr

Charles

Chaperon

out

of

France

years

ago

did

a

study

published
,

a

study

that

looked

at

the

presence

of

an

endometrioma
,

with

pain
,

I

believe

puts

patients

somewhere

between

70%

and

80%

chance

of

having

deep

endometriosis

in

other

places
.

I

mean

it's

extremely

uncommon

to

have

an

endometrioma

and

not

have

endometriosis

in

other

areas
.

I

remember

when

I

first

started

well
,

I

had

been

into

robotics

for

a

little

bit

and

with

intuitive

you'd

have

to

go

out

and

a

new

doctor

would

have

to

be

proctored
.

So

I'd

go

fly

around

different

places

and

proctor

new

doctors

as

they're

learning

their

first

robotic

cases

an

endometrioma

because

they

had

no

idea

what

they

were

getting

into
,

not

even

considering

that

it

could

be

more

than

just

the

endometrioma
,

when

it

almost

always

is
.

So

endometrioma

and

pelvic

pain

together

is

a

really

strong

marker

that

there's

going

to

be

more

advanced

disease
.

Speaker 1
3:54

Yeah
,

and

we

should

consider
,

if

someone

sees

something

on

ultrasound
,

then

finding

an

endometriosis

specialist

right

away
.

Speaker 2
4:03

So

I

think

that

it

ought

to

be

brought

you

know

to

me
.

That

ought

to

be

brought

up

in

the

discussion

with

the

doctor
.

You

know
,

if

they

just

say

you

know

we're

going

to

go

in

and

just

take

the

cyst

out
,

they

should

be

aware

that

there

can

be

more

advanced

disease
.

And

that's

a

discussion

that

hopefully

the

doctor

would

have

with

the

patient
.

To

say

you

know
,

there's

an

endometrioma

there
,

you're

having

pain
,

there's

a

chance

that

there's

probably

deep

endo

in

other

places
,

and

then

just

be

honest

about

their

experience

with

that

deep

disease
.

If

they

do

a

lot

of

deep

disease
,

that's

fine
.

You

know

you

make

a

plan

going

in
,

understanding

that

more

work

could

need

to

be

done
.

If

they

don't
,

I

mean

to

me

that

should

be

presented

to

the

patient

as

an

option
.

We

can

go

in

and

just

focus

on

the

cyst
.

Or

you

know

there's

a

good

chance

that

it's

more

advanced

than

just

that
.

And

you

know

we

can

send

a

referral

if

you

need

one
.

But

I

don't

think

that

happens

very

often
.

Speaker 1
4:51

No
,

not

in

my

experience
.

That's

a

wrap

for

this

Episode Wrap-up and Contact Info

Speaker 1
4:56

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