QC: Beyond Endometriosis: Understanding Nerve Pain in the Pelvis

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Professor Marc Possover transforms our understanding of chronic pelvic pain by targeting the pelvic nerves directly when traditional treatments fail. His pioneering work in neuropelviology bridges gynecology, neurology, and minimally invasive surgery to bring relief to patients who’ve been told to simply live with their pain.

• Pain or disorder of pelvic organs always involves nerve issues, with endometriosis being one potential cause
• Gynecological examination, sonography, and MRI help determine if endometriosis is present
• Many doctors aren’t familiar with neuropelviology – if they don’t recognize the term, they likely have limited knowledge of pelvic nerves
• Nerve-sparing techniques are crucial for all patients undergoing pelvic surgery to avoid postoperative organ dysfunction
• In patients with Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome (EDS), atypical blood vessels can compress nerves causing pain
• Treatment often involves releasing the nerve by removing the problematic vein rather than treating the nerve itself
• Sickle cell disease can also cause compression of pelvic nerves through small areas of ischemia throughout the body

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Introduction to Neuropelviology

Speaker 1
0:00

Could

it

be

endometriosis
?

Or

could

it

just

be

nerve

irritation

that's

giving

you

all

this

reoccurring

pain
?

And

how

would

you

even

try

to

describe

neuropelviology

to

one

of

your

clinicians
?

This

and

so

much

more

with

Professor

Possover
.

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around
.

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Speaker 1
0:59

Today's

guest

has

built

his

career

on

a

bold

but

vital

belief

that

suffering

pain

should

not

be

a

life

sentence
.

And

for

Professor

Mark

Possover
,

that

belief

isn't

just

a

philosophy
,

it's

a

mission

as

a

world-renowned

pioneer

in

neuropelviology
.

Yes
,

you

heard

that

right
.

He

has

transformed

how

we

understand

and

treat

chronic

pelvic

pain
,

especially

when

the

source

is

elusive

or

deemed

untreatable
.

His

work

bridges

the

worlds

of

gynecology
,

neurology

and

minimally

invasive

surgery

to

target

the

pelvic

nerve

directly
,

often

bringing

relief

to

patients

who've

been

told

to

simply

live

with

it
.

His

methods

have

given

hope

to

countless

people

who

have

felt

like

they've

run

out

of

options
.

So

if

you've

ever

wondered

what's

really

going

on

when

no

one

seems

to

have

answers
,

this

episode

is

Differentiating Nerve Pain from Endometriosis

Speaker 1
1:47

for

you
.

How

do

we

know

that

it's

our

nerves

firing
,

or

the

pain

from

our

nerves
,

and

not

endometriosis
,

if

we've

already

had

excision
,

or

even

prior

to

excision
,

deciphering

if

it's

nerves

or

endometriosis
?

Speaker 2
2:01

So

is

the

patient

feels

pain

or

disorder

of

the

pelvic

organ
.

It's

always

an

issue

with

the

nerve
,

and

endometriosis

is

a

cause

that

induces

a

dysfunction

of

the

nerves

and

not

the

contrary
.

And

now

to

know

it

is

endometrial

or

something

else
,

you

have

the

gynecological

examination

and

sonography

and

maybe

MRI
.

Speaker 1
2:23

How

do

we

talk

to

our

providers

about

neuropelviology

Explaining Neuropelviology to Providers

Speaker 1
2:26

?

This

could

be

tricky
.

Speaker 2
2:30

That

is

a

little

bit

tricky

because

I've

seen

a

lot

of

colleagues
.

Even

they

will

not

know

the

name

neuropelviology
.

Simply

use

the

word

neuropelviology
.

If

the

colleagues

don't

know

what

it

means

neuropelviology
,

they

will

have

no

knowledge

of

the

pelvic

nerves
.

Speaker 1
2:46

Yeah
,

how

important

is

nerve

sparing

for

talking

to

your

doctors
.

Speaker 2
2:52

Nerve

sparing

is

only

one

aspect

in

the

neuropalveology
.

It's

a

simple

part

in

neuropalveology

but

for

all

patients

not

just

women
,

men

as

well

who

are

undergoing

pelvic

surgery

it's

the

key

to

avoid

postoperative

dysfunction

with

a

pelvic

organ
.

You

will

have

to

preserve

even

more

because

Nerve Sparing in Pelvic Surgery

Speaker 2
3:12

mostly

the

nerve

has

nothing

to

do

with

the

pathology
.

The

pathology

is

the

endometriosis
,

not

the

nerve
.

There

is

nothing

wrong

with

the

nerve
.

The

nerves

are

affected

by

the

endometriosis
.

So

you

have

to

treat

the

endometriosis

and

not

to

reset

the

nerve
.

EDS and Nerve Sensitivity

Speaker 1
3:27

Right
.

How
,

with

the

nerves

and

things

like

Ehlers-Danlos

syndrome

or

EDS
,

is

there

a

more

heightened

state

of

sensitivity

on

the

nerves

when

you

have

conditions

like

EDS
?

Speaker 2
3:40

When

patients

are

affected

by

hypermorbidity

syndrome

or

Ehlers-Danlos

syndrome

they

have

likely

atypical

vessels

in

the

pelvis

not

only

enlarged
.

Sometimes

the

vessels

are

running

in

the

wrong

position

and

will

induce

an

irritation

by

tying
,

by

compressing

the

nerve

and

that

will

induce

secondary

pain
.

Then

the

treatment

is

not

to

do

something

with

the

nerve

but

to

release

the

nerve

by

removing

the

vein
.

In

our

country

we

have

Ehlers-Danlos

Syndrome
.

I

had

yesterday

a

patient

coming

from

South

Africa

and

he

told

me

that

in

America

there

is

another

disease
,

very
,

very

often
,

which

may

induce

as

well

compression

of

the

pelvic

nerves
.

It's

skillet

cell

disease
.

Compression

of

the

pelvic

nerves

is

skillet

cell

disease
.

It's

an

autonomic

nerve

disease

where

the

body

develops

everywhere

small

ischemia

in

the

body
.

And

this

patient

seemed

to

be

a

pathology

with

a

very
,

very

high

incidence

in

South

Africa

but

also

in

America
.

So

I

will

for

sure

make

an

education

video

on

that

in

the

future
.

Speaker 1
4:49

Yeah
,

that

would

be

an

interesting

topic

to

cover
,

for

sure
.

Speaker 2
4:53

I

will
.

Speaker 1
4:54

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