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Endometriosis, Adenomyosis, and Pelvic Floor Dysfunction
Speaker 1
0:03
Welcome
to
Indobattery
,
where
I
share
about
my
endometriosis
and
adenomyosis
story
and
continue
learning
along
the
way
.
This
podcast
is
not
a
substitute
for
professional
medical
advice
or
diagnosis
,
but
a
place
to
equip
you
with
information
and
a
sense
of
community
,
ensuring
you
never
have
to
face
this
journey
alone
.
Join
me
as
I
navigate
the
ups
and
downs
and
share
stories
of
strength
,
resilience
and
hope
.
While
navigating
the
world
of
endometriosis
and
adenomyosis
,
from
personal
experience
to
expert
insights
,
I'm
your
host
,
Elana
,
and
this
is
Indobattery
charging
our
lives
when
endometriosis
drains
us
.
Welcome
back
to
Indobattery
.
Grab
your
cup
of
coffee
or
your
cup
of
tea
and
join
me
at
the
table
as
Natalie
continues
her
story
about
the
triumphs
and
the
tribulations
that
she
has
faced
in
her
endometriosis
journey
.
This
is
where
we
left
off
and
where
we're
going
.
Speaker 2
0:58
She
has
me
stand
up
and
she
calls
up
the
Captain
Morgan
pose
and
I
put
my
leg
up
on
the
thing
.
She
does
what
she
has
to
do
and
she's
like
cough
.
And
she's
like
you
don't
have
prolapse
.
She
was
like
you
have
a
severely
hypertonic
pelvic
floor
.
She
was
like
you
are
extremely
tense
.
And
she
was
like
what
have
you
been
doing
?
And
I
was
like
,
well
,
I
do
high
intensity
and
so
we'll
work
outs
and
kicles
.
And
she
was
like
stop
doing
kicles
immediately
.
You
need
loosening
,
not
tightening
.
And
that's
when
I
started
learning
about
the
pelvic
floor
.
And
so
my
husband's
there
and
we're
both
like
gobsmacked
by
this
like
woman
just
pouring
all
the
like
,
you
know
.
And
he's
just
saying
they're
like
yeah
,
those
are
all
her
symptoms
,
that's
all
her
stuff
,
you
know
,
like
we
.
Speaker 2
1:36
I
started
crying
honestly
because
I
would
too
.
I
hadn't
.
I'm
just
crying
out
.
I
had
.
I
had
never
had
that
experience
of
somebody
validating
me
in
that
way
and
I
literally
thought
I
was
in
the
Twilight
Zone
.
Speaker 2
1:49
And
she's
like
you
have
endometriosis
.
We
know
that
for
sure
,
we
know
that
for
a
fact
.
And
she
was
like
I
think
you
have
hernias
.
Who
are
you
thinking
of
seeing
?
And
I
was
like
,
oh
well
,
I
saw
that
there's
Dr
Badali
here
,
and
at
the
time
Dr
Orbuck
was
still
in
New
York
and
I
was
like
I
don't
know
who
to
go
to
.
And
she
was
like
,
oh
well
,
you
know
,
that's
your
choice
,
you
set
your
appointments
.
But
she
was
like
you
know
,
I
know
Dr
Badali
.
Well
,
we're
doing
this
thing
called
the
endometriosis
summit
.
If
you
want
to
come
next
year
.
And
she
was
like
I
just
had
excision
and
hernia
repair
.
So
she
was
like
I
also
have
a
hernia
surgeon
that
you
could
talk
to
.
And
I
was
like
,
okay
,
and
so
this
was
August
Of
what
year
she
was
able
2019
.
Okay
,
and
she's
able
to
do
.
I
don't
know
what
she
did
.
She's
doing
manual
therapy
on
me
external
right
,
external
manual
therapy
,
internal
.
I
start
seeing
her
weekly
.
Speaker 2
2:37
Dr
Sally
was
able
to
give
me
one
pain
free
day
per
week
,
sometimes
two
.
I
could
have
kissed
her
feet
because
I
had
been
in
so
much
pulsing
,
throbbing
,
raw
wound
,
lime
and
salt
being
rubbed
into
burning
pelvic
abdominal
pain
for
so
many
years
that
I
forgot
what
it
was
like
to
not
have
pain
.
And
so
I
trusted
her
and
she
just
was
able
to
keep
giving
me
guidance
and
advice
,
and
so
what
I
got
?
I
decided
that
I
just
wanted
to
see
Dr
Badali
and
I
couldn't
fill
his
packet
out
.
I
got
it
in
August
and
I
was
terrified
to
fill
it
out
.
It
took
me
forever
to
fill
it
out
,
not
because
it
was
difficult
but
because
I
was
like
,
do
I
need
this
?
Well
,
now
that
I'm
pain
free
for
one
day
a
week
,
maybe
it's
not
that
bad
,
maybe
I
can
still
fix
it
.
You
know
,
I'm
still
like
I
could
fix
it
with
diet
,
I
could
fix
it
with
exercise
,
I
could
fix
it
with
whatever
.
And
then
I'm
just
like
you
know
what
?
I'm
just
going
to
fill
it
out
and
I'm
going
to
go
see
the
hernia
surgeon
.
Speaker 2
3:44
I
go
to
Dr
Zolland
,
who
was
also
part
of
the
Intermediate
Stress
Assignment
faculty
,
and
I
gave
him
and
I
brought
like
an
old
CAT
scan
,
because
I
know
that
he
usually
does
MRIs
,
and
he
looks
at
the
CAT
scan
and
he's
like
oh
wow
,
yeah
,
no
.
He
was
like
you
have
hernias
.
He's
like
one
,
two
,
maybe
three
.
He
was
like
I'm
not
even
going
to
do
an
MRI
.
He's
like
they're
clear
as
day
.
Mind
you
,
the
CAT
scan
report
literally
says
no
hernias
,
because
he's
an
occult
hernia
specialist
and
these
are
different
types
of
hernias
that
you
get
from
endo
,
from
having
a
hypertonic
pelvic
floor
and
you
have
a
pelvic
floor
so
tight
that
it's
tugging
and
pulling
constantly
just
from
walking
and
on
top
of
that
I'm
doing
like
jumping
and
weights
and
whatever
.
You're
playing
,
superwoman
?
Speaker 2
4:25
All
the
time
Right
,
and
I'm
tearing
holes
into
my
body
and
I
have
no
idea
.
And
so
he
was
like
so
now
I
have
two
decisions
to
make
.
Am
I
going
to
have
hernia
repair
?
Am
I
going
to
have
excision
?
Am
I
going
to
do
both
at
the
same
time
?
And
I'm
reading
that
you
can
cure
hernias
naturally
.
Speaker 2
4:42
And
again
I'm
falling
into
the
same
trap
again
.
And
mesh
is
awful
.
The
devil
evil
.
Mesh
will
ruin
you
and
kill
you
,
right
?
And
so
I'm
like
I
don't
know
what
to
do
.
And
so
I'm
talking
to
Dr
Sally
about
it
and
she's
giving
me
all
the
information
that
I
need
.
She's
not
swaying
me
one
way
or
the
other
,
she's
just
giving
me
the
information
that
I
need
.
I
go
see
Dr
Badali
.
He
does
an
intravaginal
sonogram
and
he
was
like
I
think
you
have
a
denomiosis
as
well
.
And
he
was
like
given
your
symptoms
,
he
was
like
I
believe
you're
a
candidate
for
excision
surgery
.
I
believe
that
you
do
have
anemitriosis
and
we're
going
to
do
some
hormone
testing
,
because
I
told
him
that
I
wanted
a
family
plan
.
Nobody
had
ever
tested
their
hormones
before
.
Speaker 1
5:22
So-
.
No
one
ever
does
,
even
after
you
don't
have
a
uterus
half
the
time
you
can't
even
get
hormone
testing
.
This
is
a
whole
other
topic
,
though
,
but
yeah
,
yeah
,
hormones
.
Oh
God
,
anytime
somebody
tells
me
something's
wrong
,
I'm
like
hormones
.
Speaker 2
5:35
Check
your
hormones
.
Speaker 1
5:36
Yeah
.
Speaker 2
5:36
So
this
is
August
.
Now
,
right
In
October
,
my
now
husband
and
I
go
to
Japan
.
The
surgery
is
schedules
.
I'm
going
to
do
excision
surgery
first
In
Japan
.
Speaker 2
5:46
I
was
wonderful
,
I
barely
had
any
pain
.
And
then
that's
when
I
started
learning
about
the
mind-body
connection
,
right
,
how
my
I'm
diagnosed
with
PTSD
and
my
reaction
to
triggers
is
for
my
body
to
tense
up
really
badly
,
so
it
would
make
my
pelvic
floor
even
worse
.
And
that
week
I
was
just
able
to
relax
and
I
was
not
pain-free
but
less
pain
.
And
I
remember
coming
back
sitting
on
Dr
Sally's
,
laying
on
Dr
Sally's
table
,
and
I
was
like
Sally
,
you're
not
gonna
.
I
call
her
Dr
Sally
.
She
hates
it
that
I
call
her
that
,
but
it's
her
handle
,
so
I
can't
stop
myself
from
calling
her
Dr
Sally
.
Speaker 2
6:18
She
was
always
like
can
you
just
call
me
Sally
?
And
so
she's
like
and
I
was
like
Dr
Sally
,
you're
not
going
to
believe
what
happened
in
Japan
.
She
was
like
let
me
guess
you
had
less
pain
.
And
I
was
like
how
did
you
know
?
And
she
was
like
there's
something
about
my
clients
that
when
they're
less
stressed
than
they
go
on
vacation
,
they
just
have
less
pain
.
And
she
was
like
it
just
makes
sense
Endometriosis Diagnosis and Surgery
Speaker 2
6:36
.
Right
,
november
comes
and
I'm
should
I
do
the
surgery
?
Should
I
not
do
the
surgery
?
Should
I
cancel
the
surgery
?
I'm
starting
to
feel
better
with
pelvic
floor
therapy
.
It's
getting
better
little
by
little
.
I'm
able
to
walk
and
take
a
step
and
not
feel
a
pulsing
,
burning
,
vibrating
,
throbbing
throughout
my
body
.
You
know
,
I'm
just
in
other
awful
pain
,
but
not
like
that
.
Speaker 1
6:57
But
it's
so
funny
how
we
are
okay
with
just
a
little
bit
better
,
instead
of
like
feeling
not
100%
,
but
even
feeling
like
a
human
half
the
time
,
not
just
a
pin
cushion
.
Speaker 2
7:12
I
think
I
just
didn't
remember
because
.
And
also
,
what
I
hadn't
noticed
was
,
like
I've
always
been
very
feminine
and
I
love
expressing
my
femininity
,
so
I
loved
wearing
high
heels
and
tight
dresses
and
the
way
that
I
like
to
express
it
right
,
and
that
was
always
part
of
me
.
But
like
I
hadn't
even
noticed
that
I
was
in
leggings
all
the
time
and
big
flowy
T-shirts
to
hide
my
endobeli
and
sneakers
,
which
is
totally
fine
,
there's
nothing
wrong
with
wearing
that
but
that's
what
I
had
started
wearing
all
the
time
and
it
just
wasn't
me
and
I
had
lost
a
little
bit
of
my
identity
and
my
confidence
and
like
who
I
was
,
because
I
couldn't
dress
the
way
that
I
liked
to
and
I
say
this
because
at
the
time
it's
November
,
I'm
just
like
it
can't
be
that
bad
,
you
know
whatever
.
And
then
,
literally
the
week
before
the
surgery
,
I
have
the
worst
flare
I've
had
in
the
years
,
probably
the
stress
of
it
coming
,
and
I
was
like
,
okay
,
I'm
gonna
do
the
surgery
,
like
,
even
if
they
find
nothing
,
at
least
I
know
that
it's
not
under
metriosis
and
I'm
gonna
do
something
else
right
.
And
that's
what
I
tell
people
now
,
like
at
the
very
least
you'll
know
that
it's
not
endo
if
they
find
nothing
right
and
like
we
both
know
that
100%
of
the
time
it's
like
you
have
endo
.
Speaker 2
8:20
I
can't
say
enough
about
Dr
Vidalhi
,
the
staff
at
the
Hoboken
Hospital
in
Jersey
and
my
due
.
This
is
August
to
December
.
This
is
a
very
short
period
of
time
.
They
were
wonderful
.
Speaker 2
8:32
I
told
the
anesthesiologist
I
was
like
you
have
to
tell
me
when
you're
gonna
put
me
to
sleep
,
because
I
hate
being
put
to
sleep
and
I
was
like
if
you
don't
tell
me
,
I'm
gonna
walk
off
this
table
.
He
was
very
kind
to
my
and
he
was
like
I'm
gonna
let
you
know
.
So
my
mom's
there
,
my
sister
,
my
now
husband
,
I
remember
going
in
,
waking
up
in
the
room
and
you
know
I'm
like
a
little
groggy
and
I
already
felt
different
and
I
know
that
you're
an
endocrine
acesa
and
all
that
,
but
like
I
already
felt
different
and
I
look
at
my
mom
and
that
moment
before
I
could
even
ask
if
they
find
anything
,
dr
Vidalhi
comes
in
.
He's
like
Natalie
hi
and
he
was
like
wait
,
and
it's
super
self-way
,
yeah
,
yeah
.
And
you
know
,
and
that's
what
I
love
about
Dr
Vidalhi
,
he's
so
passionate
and
proud
of
his
work
,
right
,
like
that's
the
kind
of
person
you
want
doing
surgery
,
somebody
who's
like
.
I'm
gonna
show
you
the
picture
and
the
video
,
because
that's
how
good
I
am
.
Speaker 1
9:20
You
know
what
I
mean
.
Speaker 2
9:22
Like
what's
better
than
that
?
And
he
comes
in
and
he
was
like
you
had
your
entire
rectovaginal
peritoneal
area
you
know
basically
where
your
butt
is
and
your
vagina
is
,
especially
towards
the
left
.
I
had
masses
of
endometriosis
by
bronic
tissue
just
piled
up
on
top
of
each
other
,
and
I
had
little
clear
endo
,
which
was
baby
endo
.
I
call
it
baby
endo
.
It's
like
new
growth
of
endo
,
Right
.
It's
a
good
word
for
it
,
though
,
and
I
didn't
know
baby
endo
is
like
the
most
painful
.
It
can
be
the
most
painful
because
it's
like
this
brand
new
growth
.
Speaker 2
9:58
And
if
you
look
at
my
images
,
you
would
have
to
be
an
endometriosis
expert
to
see
this
,
because
it
wasn't
brown
,
I
didn't
have
cysts
whatever
.
Discovering Undiagnosed Conditions and Multiple Hernias
Speaker 2
10:06
I
consider
myself
very
lucky
that
I
didn't
have
endometriosis
on
my
uterus
,
my
fallopian
tubes
.
I
had
a
little
bit
on
my
left
ovary
which
she
was
able
to
excise
.
I
didn't
have
it
in
my
intestines
.
It
was
literally
the
mass
of
endometriosis
lesions
on
my
rectovaginal
area
that
was
causing
constipation
,
causing
the
pelvic
floor
dysfunction
.
My
body
was
literally
like
tightening
up
to
protect
itself
from
this
alien
tissue
that
shouldn't
be
there
.
And
he
basically
scooped
me
out
like
a
watermelon
,
like
if
you
see
the
video
in
the
pictures
,
like
he
just
kind
of
cut
in
like
a
nice
little
butterfly
shape
.
All
of
this
mass
of
endo
and
everything
he
said
to
the
lab
was
endo
.
And
I
cried
.
The
second
he
walked
out
because
I
was
like
I
knew
it
.
I
knew
it
.
I'm
not
insane
,
I'm
not
crazy
,
I
wasn't
making
it
up
,
I'm
not
weak
.
Like
I
knew
something
was
wrong
and
nobody
was
listening
.
No
one
,
no
one
cared
.
No
one
cared
to
send
me
to
like
another
specialist
,
nobody
cared
to
send
me
to
a
pelvic
floor
therapist
and
these
people
just
didn't
know
what
they
were
talking
about
.
So
I
was
angry
.
I
was
so
angry
afterwards
because
it's
like
I
wanted
to
.
I
just
wanted
to
take
that
paper
and
be
like
look
,
I
told
you
that
I
was
in
pain
,
I
told
you
that
I
wasn't
okay
and
you
didn't
listen
.
And
I
see
Dr
Badali
for
my
follow
up
.
He
gives
me
the
surgery
video
and
he's
like
oh
,
by
the
way
,
do
you
know
if
you
have
PCOS
?
And
I
go
I
have
no
idea
.
And
he's
like
you
should
check
because
your
hormones
came
back
and
it
looks
like
you
might
have
PCOS
.
And
I
was
like
,
should
I
see
an
endocrinologist
for
that
?
And
he
goes
yeah
,
you
should
,
which
my
PCP
never
told
me
to
do
,
that
he
always
.
I
asked
once
if
I
should
and
he
told
me
,
no
,
I
go
to
endocrinologist
.
So
not
only
do
I
now
know
that
I
have
had
this
massive
endometriosis
excision
,
turns
out
I
had
undiagnosed
Hashimoto's
disease
for
my
entire
life
and
I
had
PCOS
.
Speaker 2
11:57
I
made
the
decision
to
not
take
birth
control
afterwards
because
I
just
wanted
to
see
how
it
would
be
like
.
It
was
suggested
to
me
that
I
should
stay
on
it
so
that
the
first
period
wouldn't
be
so
bad
post-excision
,
but
I
just
wanted
to
see
what
it
would
be
like
.
I
can't
explain
how
that
the
endometriosis
pain
for
me
was
,
very
specifically
,
an
raw
,
open
wound
with
salt
and
lime
being
rubbed
in
and
somebody
just
coming
every
once
in
a
while
and
just
ripping
it
apart
with
like
razor
blades
.
That's
what
it
always
felt
like
.
That
pain
was
gone
,
gone
.
Right
now
,
as
I'm
sitting
here
,
I
do
not
feel
that
pain
and
I
was
shocked
that
it
was
gone
.
But
then
I
had
horrific
throbbing
,
pulsating
pain
in
my
lower
body
and
I
didn't
know
why
.
Or
I
did
know
why
Probably
the
nerve
compression
,
right
,
it's
2020
.
The
world
shuts
down
.
We
don't
know
when
we're
going
back
to
our
doctors
.
Speaker 2
12:52
I
had
like
one
session
with
Dr
Sally
.
Post
operation
I
could
barely
commute
to
work
.
Honestly
,
even
a
month
in
.
It
was
very
difficult
for
me
to
walk
.
It
was
strange
cause
like
I
didn't
have
the
endometriosis
pain
anymore
,
but
I
was
like
in
what
felt
like
worse
pain
than
ever
.
But
I
think
what
it
was
is
just
in
the
absence
of
the
endometriosis
pain
,
the
other
pain
generators
that
I
always
had
were
just
screaming
loud
,
taking
center
stage
,
cause
that's
what
pain
is
.
Pain
is
.
Hey
,
pay
attention
to
me
,
cause
something's
wrong
.
Right
,
pain
has
a
function
and
I
think
I
think
we
forget
that
there's
a
function
to
pain
and
so
I'm
trying
to
do
virtual
therapy
with
Dr
Sally
,
but
I
think
I
should
have
known
at
the
time
cause
her
and
I
discussed
it
,
me
maybe
seeing
somebody
else
,
but
I
was
so
attached
to
her
I
didn't
want
to
leave
her
.
Speaker 2
13:40
Right
,
really
so
,
and
I
was
hoping
that
,
like
when
the
world
right
and
like
and
nobody's
going
to
know
what
Dr
Sally
knows
,
right
,
I
was
so
attached
to
her
and
we're
doing
virtual
,
but
I
literally
can't
walk
for
more
than
five
minutes
.
If
I
walk
for
more
than
five
minutes
,
I
would
say
I
spent
those
first
11
months
post-excision
.
I
was
in
a
fetal
position
on
my
couch
and
thank
God
that
it
was
COVID
,
because
I
would
have
lost
my
job
.
I
just
didn't
know
what
to
do
and
I
knew
that
I
had
to
just
go
get
the
hernia
repair
.
At
that
point
I
was
doing
your
block
injections
,
which
were
helpful
.
I
was
doing
pelvic
floor
injections
,
which
were
helpful
.
I
was
using
suppositories
,
which
were
helpful
.
I
would
say
they
got
me
through
those
11
months
.
But
something
physically
about
me
wasn't
getting
better
because
I
couldn't
move
.
I
just
couldn't
move
and
my
body
just
changed
so
much
.
I
gained
so
much
weight
.
I'd
never
seen
myself
like
this
.
Overnight
,
stretch
marks
erupted
and
it
was
a
reckoning
of
my
relationship
to
myself
and
my
body
and
starting
to
learn
how
to
be
nice
to
my
body
and
accept
my
body
for
what
it's
been
through
and
be
kind
to
it
and
that
those
stretch
marks
are
okay
.
They
were
just
making
way
for
space
that
I
needed
at
the
time
and
being
in
a
fetal
position
was
my
body
trying
to
protect
me
from
this
pain
that
I
was
having
.
Speaker 2
14:56
So
,
november
2020
,
11
months
after
having
excision
surgery
,
I
have
hernia
repair
and
it's
a
little
scary
.
We
don't
have
a
vaccine
for
COVID
yet
.
It's
at
a
surgical
center
,
not
a
hospital
At
the
time
,
nobody
else
can
come
.
So
I
was
just
like
again
,
if
Dr
Zollan
goes
in
and
he
finds
one
little
hernia
and
that's
what
it
is
,
at
least
we
know
that
it's
not
a
hernia
and
I
gotta
find
out
what's
going
on
.
He
goes
in
and
he
finds
seven
hernias
.
I
have
an
umbilical
hernia
,
I
have
two
inguinal
hernias
,
which
is
like
where
people
would
point
out
their
ovaries
.
I
have
two
obterator
hernias
,
which
are
like
down
,
like
towards
the
inside
of
your
thigh
,
and
I
have
two
no
,
sorry
,
that's
femoral
hernias
and
two
obterator
hernias
,
which
are
kind
of
like
,
in
the
same
area
.
So
I
had
twins
on
both
sides
of
the
body
,
equally
Worse
.
On
my
left
side
,
the
openings
were
a
lot
larger
and
pockets
of
fat
that
had
been
ripped
off
my
abdominal
wall
from
having
the
tense
pelvic
floor
have
fallen
into
these
tears
and
they
were
compressing
the
nerves
.
So
he
had
to
clean
up
debris
out
of
these
holes
and
close
it
up
and
cover
it
with
mesh
.
Recovery Journey to Powerlifting
Speaker 2
16:08
When
I
woke
up
,
first
of
all
,
that
surgery
made
me
realize
that
I
took
the
excision
surgery
for
granted
.
Excision
surgery
is
a
major
surgery
.
Yes
,
it
is
no
joke
.
Yes
,
I
would
do
10
hernia
repairs
over
an
excision
surgery
any
day
.
So
and
I
say
that
for
people
to
be
kind
to
themselves
,
because
excision
surgeries
are
no
joke
and
I
can't
describe
it
to
you
but
the
second
that
I
woke
up
from
that
surgery
,
I
felt
like
somebody
had
gone
from
the
inside
of
my
leg
to
my
ankle
and
zipped
me
up
.
And
it
was
like
I
was
zipped
up
and
it
was
nice
and
tight
and
my
legs
felt
tight
.
Speaker 2
16:44
Dr
Zollan
comes
in
and
he's
like
you
had
seven
hernias
and
he's
like
it
was
worse
on
your
left
.
He's
showing
you
pictures
Again
.
Another
doctor
who's
proud
of
his
work
yeah
,
and
you
know
Sally
knows
how
to
find
really
great
doctors
and
he's
like
you
know
he
was
like
have
you
ever
had
issues
like
not
really
feeling
your
left
leg
?
And
I
was
like
,
oh
,
yeah
,
I
just
you
get
you
,
you
know
.
Yeah
,
of
course
,
like
sometimes
I
can't
feel
my
left
leg
and
he
was
like
well
,
that
should
be
better
now
,
because
you
had
a
really
bad
femoral
compression
there
.
I
repaired
them
all
.
Let's
check
in
in
a
month
.
So
in
a
month
.
The
nerve
pain
is
awful
.
My
legs
feel
better
,
I
feel
sturdier
,
my
legs
feel
like
they
can
move
more
,
but
the
nerve
pain
is
like
out
of
control
.
The
pelvic
floor
pain
is
crazy
.
How
could
it
not
?
Speaker 2
17:27
be
,
I
had
a
major
surgery
.
Then
I
had
another
surgery
.
I
didn't
have
access
to
pelvic
floor
therapy
,
so
I
start
pelvic
floor
therapy
in
2021
.
I
started
going
twice
a
week
.
A
few
months
in
,
I
started
seeing
a
personal
trainer
because
I
was
just
so
weak
Again
I
had
my
abdomen
stretched
out
again
right
,
it's
like
six
months
just
for
your
abs
to
go
back
together
after
surgery
.
Speaker 2
17:50
And
you
know
,
I'm
not
gonna
lie
Like
I
was
feeling
really
defeated
.
I
was
like
I've
been
.
I
butchered
my
body
and
I'm
not
feeling
better
.
What
did
I
?
Did
I
make
a
mistake
?
Speaker 1
18:00
Right
.
Speaker 2
18:01
Maybe
I'm
just
not
fixable
.
Maybe
maybe
there's
something
about
me
that
,
just
like
,
this
is
the
life
I
have
to
live
is
in
pain
,
but
I
had
to
remember
what
I
learned
from
Sally
I
went
to
the
endometriosis
stomach
in
2020
,
right
before
the
world
shut
down
Right
,
and
that's
why
,
like
endometriosis
education
,
post-excision
is
so
important
.
Endometriosis
I'm
not
trying
to
plug
it
here
.
Speaker 1
18:24
I'm
gonna
be
there
in
March
but
like
I'm
gonna
plug
it
real
fast
If
you're
going
,
you
need
to
go
.
Like
,
if
you
have
the
opportunity
and
can
,
you
absolutely
should
go
,
absolutely
100%
.
Speaker 2
18:35
And
,
in
virtual
,
totally
worth
it
.
Yes
,
and
if
you
can't
go
and
you
can't
pay
for
the
ticket
,
watch
the
endometriosis
stomach
videos
.
Yes
,
they
are
free
99
and
you
get
free
information
from
some
of
the
best
in
the
world
yes
,
and
so
that's
when
I
learned
about
like
you
gotta
find
your
pain
generators
and
you
gotta
work
on
them
individually
,
because
the
excision
took
care
of
the
endo
,
but
your
body
got
used
to
something
being
there
for
your
whole
life
and
it's
gone
now
,
but
it's
gonna
keep
reacting
the
way
that
it
did
.
So
it
took
a
long
time
,
but
six
months
into
pelvic
floor
therapy
,
I
was
able
to
walk
30
minutes
.
Six
months
after
that
,
a
year
in
,
I
was
clear
to
lift
weights
and
you're
a
power
lifter
,
right
?
Yes
,
so
in
2022
,
I
was
still
working
with
that
personal
trainer
,
who
is
a
goddess
.
I
love
Holly
so
much
.
She
just
happens
to
be
educated
in
pelvic
floor
Because
she
she
has
worked
with
a
lot
of
women
who
have
had
children
,
but
she's
I'm
gonna
Say
how
awesome
she
is
.
She's
one
of
the
directors
of
fitness
at
NYU
for
the
athletes
and
we're
just
doing
these
little
workouts
,
right
,
because
I'm
feeling
better
,
we're
trying
to
work
up
to
it
and
then
,
all
of
a
sudden
I
get
a
new
job
and
this
job
has
a
rack
with
barbells
on
it
and
she's
like
have
you
ever
used
that
before
?
And
I'm
like
no
.
And
she
was
like
okay
,
let's
start
using
it
.
And
Then
every
week
I
was
getting
stronger
and
stronger
.
My
pelvic
pain
is
lessening
,
my
nerve
pain
is
lessening
and
I'm
still
doing
injections
.
I'm
still
using
suppositories
.
I'm
using
topical
ketamine
,
valium
,
stuff
like
that
to
keep
the
nerves
calm
down
,
because
you
gotta
calm
them
down
.
That's
what
pelvic
pain
rehab
does
.
Oh
,
sorry
,
pelvic
rehabilitation
medicine
,
I
think
they're
called
now
.
The
point
is
to
get
these
nerves
to
just
calm
down
.
Right
,
calm
the
heck
down
.
You're
not
in
.
Nothing's
compressing
you
anymore
,
just
right
.
So
I'm
still
public
floor
therapy
,
injections
,
personal
training
.
Speaker 2
20:32
And
then
I
start
noticing
that
I'm
getting
like
really
strong
every
week
,
every
week
,
I'm
gonna
see
if
I'll
lift
more
.
And
she
was
like
you're
really
strong
.
She
was
like
have
you
ever
thought
about
powerlifting
?
And
I
was
like
what
is
that
?
I
become
obsessed
.
I
start
watching
videos
.
That's
what
I
saw
my
weekends
doing
.
I'm
like
eating
popcorn
,
watching
powerlifting
videos
and
I'm
astonished
at
like
what
these
women
can
lift
.
I'm
like
so
inspired
and
I'm
like
I
can
do
this
.
Speaker 2
20:55
Yeah
,
again
,
I'm
doing
so
much
work
that
,
honestly
,
I
kind
of
shut
people
out
.
I
had
to
shut
people
out
.
I'm
focusing
on
work
and
I'm
focusing
on
my
body
because
I
wanted
so
badly
just
to
get
to
some
sort
of
better
Mm-hmm
.
And
Holly
just
says
to
me
listen
,
I've
,
I'm
tapped
out
.
She's
like
I'm
not
a
powerlifting
coach
,
but
I
think
you
should
work
with
a
coach
if
you're
really
interested
in
this
sport
.
And
so
she
recommended
my
amazing
coach
,
jacob
,
who
Is
just
such
a
kind
,
compassionate
type
of
person
that
you
want
to
train
you
.
It's
not
none
of
this
no
pain
,
no
gain
.
You
got
to
kill
yourself
.
Whatever
I
explain
endometriosis
.
He
understood
it
and
he's
been
so
gentle
with
me
and
so
he
accepted
me
on
his
team
,
which
was
like
insane
to
me
.
I'm
an
athlete
now
.
I
went
from
not
being
able
to
walk
to
I'm
an
athlete
.
I
have
my
first
meet
on
January
27th
,
which
I'm
practicing
for
.
Yesterday
I
squatted
the
most
I've
ever
squatted
in
my
life
.
Speaker 1
21:53
What's
your
PR
?
Speaker 2
21:54
and
so
right
now
,
on
the
squat
,
it's
135
pounds
get
it
,
girl
.
Speaker 1
21:59
That's
not
even
like
.
Speaker 2
22:00
Strength
.
That's
me
working
on
that
scale
that
you
work
on
when
you're
a
powerlifter
.
I
don't
know
I'm
gonna
lift
the
day
of
the
meat
.
But
the
hernia
repair
worked
.
My
nerve
pain
is
97%
less
.
Sometimes
I
get
it
gets
flared
up
.
How
can
it
not
right
,
okay
,
okay
,
like
I
tell
people
all
the
time
that
Sunday
messages
,
you
can't
undo
a
lifetime
of
damage
overnight
.
It's
only
four
years
post-excision
and
three
years
post-nerve
nerve
compression
repair
.
Speaker 1
22:29
Mm-hmm
.
Speaker 2
22:30
I
have
pelvic
floor
flare-up
sometimes
,
but
now
that
I'm
exercising
and
I
learned
my
body
so
well
through
pelvic
floor
therapy
,
I
know
how
to
do
what
I
need
to
do
to
calm
it
down
myself
.
And
if
not
,
I
am
still
seeing
a
pelvic
floor
therapist
weekly
.
Yeah
,
because
that's
just
what
I'm
gonna
need
and
I'm
thankful
that
I
have
the
privilege
to
have
the
access
to
it
.
Yeah
,
but
I
guess
the
thing
is
,
yeah
,
you're
probably
not
gonna
feel
immediately
better
after
excision
surgery
.
But
just
understand
that
there
could
be
so
many
things
.
Speaker 2
22:57
Mm-hmm
that
are
gonna
still
cause
pain
,
that
the
endometriosis
might
have
made
worse
and
you
might
have
comorbidities
.
I
still
deal
with
Hashimoto's
disease
,
right
,
so
I
still
deal
with
Exhaustion
.
If
I'm
not
on
my
meds
properly
,
I
have
PCOS
,
which
I
have
to
deal
with
,
my
severe
insulin
resistance
there
.
So
there's
so
much
more
to
the
puzzle
.
There's
so
much
more
to
the
pain
puzzle
for
endometriosis
patients
and
our
bodies
are
so
different
.
I
know
people
that
have
excision
surgery
and
are
like
running
two
months
later
and
they're
fine
.
That
wasn't
me
.
No
,
that
wasn't
me
.
Speaker 2
23:27
I
just
didn't
give
up
.
I
had
hope
.
I
believed
in
the
medical
team
that
I
built
for
myself
,
mostly
through
the
endometriosis
summit
,
and
they're
the
ones
that
I
still
have
now
.
And
if
it
wasn't
for
that
community
of
Doctors
that
care
about
their
jobs
,
that
were
willing
to
all
even
talk
to
each
other
on
my
behalf
,
even
talk
to
my
personal
trainer
on
my
behalf
Yep
,
I
wouldn't
be
where
I
am
.
The
best
advice
I
could
give
anybody
is
like
if
you
just
had
excision
surgery
and
you're
in
pain
,
I'm
sorry
,
have
patience
.
Yeah
,
if
you're
in
danger
,
if
you
feel
like
your
life
in
the
nature
,
go
to
the
doctor
,
go
to
the
ER
,
go
Right
,
but
what
you're
feeling
may
not
be
endometriosis
pain
.
If
it
was
a
proper
excision
it
might
be
public
floor
.
It
might
be
no
compression
right
.
So
that's
my
story
.
I
went
from
barely
being
able
to
take
a
step
To
powerlifting
,
and
I
could
probably
power
lift
in
high
heels
if
I
tried
yeah
,
why
not
?
Speaker 1
24:22
I
mean
other
than
the
pill
.
You
know
your
PT
might
not
like
that
,
so
much
come
the
following
week
,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
highlight
the
surgery
did
not
cause
the
hernias
.
The
hernias
were
there
.
Speaker 2
24:36
Yes
,
that
is
so
important
,
that's
the
biggest
question
I
get
.
So
Sally
suspected
hernias
way
before
the
excision
and
and
they
were
not
caused
by
the
excision
surgery
.
They
were
not
.
They
were
there
,
like
the
type
of
damage
that
I
had
and
the
openings
that
did
not
happen
from
surgery
it
within
a
few
months
.
That
was
years
and
years
of
tugging
,
tugging
,
ripping
,
ripping
from
having
a
hypertonic
pelvic
floor
Right
,
which
is
this
bizarre
to
me
,
that
like
because
people
say
,
well
,
how
did
the
endo
cause
your
hernias
?
I
was
like
,
well
,
it
caused
pelvic
floor
dysfunction
and
it
had
a
hypertonic
pelvic
floor
and
it
was
pulling
and
pulling
and
ripped
and
ripped
and
and
that's
how
it
ended
up
happening
.
But
yeah
,
that's
a
really
good
point
,
we
suspect
that
,
that
I
had
them
and
I
did
absolutely
had
it
before
I
had
excision
surgery
.
Yeah
for
sure
.
Speaker 1
25:22
What
do
you
do
to
prepare
now
that
you're
powerlifting
?
I
know
it
took
you
a
long
time
and
and
I'm
in
the
same
boat
where
I
have
a
trainer
who
is
very
aware
of
the
public
floor
.
So
we
do
pelvic
tilts
a
lot
90
,
90
stretches
.
Making
sure
internal
,
external
rotation
are
very
important
,
making
sure
we
warm
up
properly
so
that
I
don't
hurt
myself
.
Speaker 2
25:42
Yes
.
Speaker 1
25:43
Those
you
kind
of
have
to
work
up
to
Navigating Pelvic Floor Health and Endometriosis
Speaker 1
25:45
.
I
think
,
in
a
lot
of
ways
,
like
it's
not
something
,
yeah
,
it's
not
instant
.
Speaker 2
25:49
Absolutely
no
,
no
,
no
,
I
mean
I
.
I
remember
when
I
couldn't
even
squat
like
a
30
pound
dumbbell
right
and
I
squatted
135
pounds
yesterday
.
So
it's
yeah
,
I
know
I'm
so
excited
.
It
takes
time
and
that's
what
I
say
.
It's
like
this
progress
is
three
and
a
half
years
of
intensive
work
on
my
part
,
like
really
committing
to
doing
it
,
even
on
the
days
I
didn't
want
to
,
and
I
get
it
.
I
get
it
that
you're
in
pain
and
you're
tired
and
all
that
stuff
,
and
you
shouldn't
feel
bad
for
that
.
Some
days
I
just
didn't
do
it
because
I
don't
want
to
.
Speaker 2
26:21
But
but
the
thing
is
like
it
was
three
and
a
half
years
of
work
and
after
three
and
a
half
years
of
like
really
listening
to
your
body
and
I
mean
really
listening
because
it
was
,
if
it
wasn't
friend
of
me
,
true
,
so
I
would
have
never
learned
to
listen
to
my
body
I
can
feel
the
separate
types
of
pain
.
I
know
when
it's
nerve
pain
now
.
I
know
when
it's
pelvic
floor
tension
now
.
And
so
before
I
power
lift
,
or
even
sometimes
in
the
mornings
,
before
I
go
to
work
,
to
someone
to
walk
,
I'm
gonna
commute
right
.
I'm
gonna
use
the
tools
that
my
fit
pelvic
floor
therapist
gave
me
and
my
personal
trainer
gave
me
.
I
keep
my
dilators
clean
and
ready
,
with
the
lube
next
to
it
,
because
maybe
in
the
morning
,
while
I'm
doing
my
makeup
or
Curling
my
hair
before
I
go
to
work
,
I
have
a
dilator
in
,
because
I
can
feel
the
tightness
and
I
know
that
if
I
just
go
with
that
,
the
tightness
starting
,
it's
gonna
get
worse
and
by
the
end
of
the
day
it's
gonna
be
much
worse
than
it
was
before
.
Speaker 2
27:11
So
I
kind
of
know
now
I
need
to
use
a
dilator
today
or
I
need
to
put
a
suppository
in
today
I
used
to
have
to
take
one
of
those
suppositories
daily
.
Now
I
take
it
sporadically
.
Yeah
,
and
when
I
first
started
lifting
and
it
was
really
funny
If
we
would
start
a
new
training
block
,
a
new
type
of
movement
my
body
immediately
would
go
into
pelvic
floor
flare
and
I
learned
this
about
myself
.
So
,
exactly
like
you
said
,
I
do
warmups
that
are
all
about
telling
my
body
it's
safe
,
preparing
it
for
movement
,
telling
my
body
that
it's
gonna
be
okay
,
that
this
isn't
going
to
hurt
me
,
and
I
know
that
sounds
silly
,
but
I
do
talk
to
my
body
and
I'm
gentle
with
it
.
I'm
like
thank
you
for
tessing
up
because
you're
trying
to
protect
me
,
but
I
don't
need
it
,
it's
unnecessary
,
don't
tense
up
.
Speaker 2
28:01
And
your
diaphragmatic
breathing
.
It's
a
simple
,
it's
a
very
simple
thing
to
do
,
but
it's
so
effective
.
You're
calming
your
central
nervous
system
now
and
I
know
that
for
me
,
that
is
definitely
one
of
the
factors
is
I
already
have
a
diagnosis
of
PTSD
from
other
things
that
have
happened
in
my
life
and
I'm
absolutely
a
person
where
I
immediately
get
the
bodily
symptoms
from
it
.
That's
me
.
So
I
will
do
these
warmups
that
are
hip
openers
,
public
floor
relaxers
,
and
just
do
as
much
as
I
can
.
Sometimes
it
doesn't
work
,
sometimes
my
public
floor
is
upset
and
it
just
doesn't
want
to
be
nice
and
cooperative
and
it's
gonna
be
tense
the
whole
time
and
that's
fine
.
And
after
my
workouts
I
will
sit
there
and
do
a
cool
down
right
Crocodile
,
breathing
,
happy
baby
,
which
my
husband
,
every
time
he
sees
me
in
happy
baby
,
he's
like
are
you
calling
the
mother
ship
?
Speaker 2
28:51
And
he
makes
he's
like
and
I'm
like
yes
,
I'm
calling
the
mother
ship
with
my
vagina
,
that's
right
,
and
you'll
thank
me
for
that
later
.
Speaker 1
28:58
okay
,
yeah
,
exactly
.
Speaker 2
29:02
Only
we
need
to
know
about
this
that
do
happy
baby
pose
and
I
don't
care
if
I
do
those
in
the
gym
in
front
of
people
.
They
can
watch
what
they
want
.
My
public
floor
health
is
more
important
than
that
.
And
as
far
as
like
nerve
pain
goes
,
a
lot
of
times
again
I
don't
really
feel
it
as
much
anymore
After
my
workouts
that's
when
I
do
,
or
before
I
do
those
pelvic
tilts
right
and
thrusts
just
hip
thrusts
are
amazing
for
rectal
tension
for
me
.
Speaker 2
29:25
Oh
my
God
if
I
get
a
nice
heavy
barbell
on
me
and
I
do
like
a
really
good
hip
thrust
.
It'll
release
that
tension
.
There's
something
about
me
where
tension
on
tension
just
like
releases
it
,
it
cancels
it
out
.
And
when
I'm
not
working
out
,
I'll
just
make
sure
to
like
do
little
things
,
like
making
sure
that
I'm
sitting
in
a
way
that's
not
making
it
worse
,
using
my
dilators
,
doing
my
diaphragmatic
breathing
.
It's
just
part
of
my
life
now
.
It's
part
of
the
process
.
Speaker 2
29:48
I
don't
see
it
as
a
chore
anymore
.
It
comes
natural
to
me
and
being
mindful
of
what
kind
of
shoes
I
wear
,
being
mindful
of
what
kind
of
clothes
I
wear
,
if
I
feel
a
nerve
flare
coming
,
I'll
try
to
stop
it
with
.
Maybe
sometimes
I
don't
need
the
stuff
from
the
Pimpas
I
address
.
The
lighted
came
patch
over
the
counter
.
I
could
just
pop
it
on
there
and
like
stop
it
before
it
goes
nuts
.
So
I've
learned
it
through
pelvic
floor
therapy
,
working
with
a
personal
trainer
and
just
listening
to
my
body
and
what
it
needs
.
It
doesn't
always
work
,
it's
not
always
perfect
,
I'm
not
always
on
top
of
it
.
I'm
human
.
But
for
the
most
part
I'm
trying
and
that's
the
most
important
thing
that
I
can
do
.
Speaker 1
30:29
It's
just
try
for
myself
.
Speaker 2
30:30
Yeah
,
that's
my
days
now
and
I'm
gonna
say
,
as
I'm
sitting
here
,
like
these
past
few
weeks
,
especially
when
I
lift
,
when
I
lift
I
feel
really
good
.
I've
been
like
90%
and
no
pain
,
right
.
I'm
having
a
weird
like
rib
cage
pain
,
nerve
pain
.
I
have
no
idea
why
.
We'll
figure
it
out
eventually
.
That's
how
I
approach
things
now
.
Speaker 1
30:49
I'm
like
I'll
figure
it
out
,
I'll
figure
it
out
,
but
you
know
the
proper
channels
now
,
too
,
where
it's
like
okay
,
I'm
not
gonna
just
ignore
it
,
I'm
going
to
actually
investigate
what
it
is
.
Okay
,
I'm
gonna
start
with
step
one
.
Is
it
my
pelvic
floor
?
Is
it
pulling
on
that
?
Is
it
something
else
?
So
you
know
the
proper
channels
,
but
you
didn't
get
there
overnight
.
It
wasn't
like
oh
,
I
know
what
that
is
.
It
takes
a
long
time
.
Speaker 2
31:12
No
,
it
takes
a
long
time
.
And
I
also
have
just
never
stopped
learning
about
a
new
metriosis
.
And
thank
God
for
Heather
,
for
Sally
,
for
Amy
Corfally
,
for
Katie
Boyce
,
for
you
,
for
people
that
just
keep
talking
about
it
and
talking
about
how
it
affects
us
all
so
differently
.
Because
I
think
that
a
lot
of
times
you'll
have
a
symptom
and
you'll
just
attribute
it
to
something
else
and
then
you'll
just
hear
that
one
conversation
and
be
like
holy
crap
,
it's
my
endo
.
My
endo
is
the
reason
why
this
is
happening
.
And
so
I'm
just
gonna
keep
doing
what
I
did
when
I
was
20
,
which
is
just
keep
learning
about
how
my
diseases
affect
me
.
Speaker 2
31:49
Like
the
way
that
I
picked
my
endocrinologists
and
to
help
me
with
my
PCOS
and
Hashimoto's
.
I
was
like
,
can
you
explain
to
me
biologically
what's
happening
in
my
body
?
Why
do
I
feel
this
way
?
What's
the
mechanism
that's
failing
,
that's
causing
the
symptoms
that
I'm
having
?
I
remember
there
was
one
doctor
who
got
so
offended
by
that
question
and
he
was
like
,
well
,
it
sounds
like
you're
pretty
right
up
on
it
,
so
whatever
you
think
.
And
I
was
like
I'm
never
coming
back
here
again
.
Speaker 1
32:13
That's
nobody
asked
you
,
so
it's
right
.
Speaker 2
32:17
That's
why
I
asked
you
and
it's
like
just
because
I
can
be
so
educated
and
researched
and
whatever
,
I'm
still
not
a
doctor
.
So
I
say
,
endometriosis
has
been
my
cruelest
abuser
but
my
best
teacher
.
I
know
how
to
advocate
for
myself
when
I
have
other
things
wrong
with
me
,
I
know
what
kind
of
questions
to
ask
,
how
to
show
up
to
the
doctor
,
and
no
one
.
It's
time
to
move
on
.
And
maybe
when
I
feel
like
I'm
not
being
heard
and
that's
why
I
started
my
advocacy
page
,
because
I'm
first
generation
and
I
had
to
learn
all
that
by
myself
.
Endometriosis and Latino Cultural Health
Speaker 2
32:45
No
one
in
my
family
knew
what
the
American
healthcare
system
is
like
and
you
don't
think
about
that
.
Speaker 2
32:51
A
healthcare
system
in
another
country
is
just
different
,
and
in
Latino
culture
you're
taught
not
to
question
doctors
,
because
in
the
United
States
people
don't
understand
,
like
,
if
you're
from
in
America
,
honduras
or
El
Salvador
,
like
my
family
is
,
if
you
become
a
doctor
,
that
means
one
that
you're
super
smart
,
because
some
of
the
best
universities
are
public
and
you
have
to
pass
grueling
exams
to
get
in
,
or
two
.
Speaker 2
33:13
You
come
from
extreme
wealth
and
privilege
,
and
so
the
thing
is
in
the
United
States
I'm
not
saying
that
just
anybody
can
become
a
doctor
.
That's
not
the
truth
,
but
it
is
just
a
little
bit
easier
.
But
the
thing
is
that
prestige
and
that
mentality
of
like
you
don't
question
that
type
of
authority
is
ingrained
in
you
as
a
kid
and
,
like
you
know
,
you're
a
kid
like
translating
the
legal
documents
,
medical
documents
.
I
literally
took
a
job
at
a
health
insurance
company
when
I
was
like
25
,
just
to
learn
what
health
insurance
was
like
,
because
I
didn't
understand
it
.
I
didn't
learn
what
health
insurance
worked
like
until
I
took
a
job
at
a
health
insurance
company
and
now
I
know
,
and
I
know
that
it's
a
whole
mess
.
Speaker 1
33:52
We're
going
to
have
to
have
another
part
two
on
that
,
because
that's
a
big
.
You
didn't
know
you
opened
up
that
can
of
worms
,
did
you
?
Yeah
?
Speaker 2
33:59
I
know
I
didn't
Like
a
lot
of
things
that
I've
done
in
my
life
.
I
just
did
them
to
learn
about
them
because
I
had
no
other
person
to
turn
to
and
I
asked
.
I
tried
to
look
for
mentors
,
but
I
think
I
realized
like
so
many
of
us
just
don't
really
know
what
we
don't
know
if
we're
not
dealing
with
it
right
.
Not
everybody's
in
a
chronic
pain
so
they're
not
going
to
know
how
to
navigate
.
Talking
to
doctors
College
again
.
Speaker 2
34:23
I
did
that
on
my
own
I
wish
somebody
would
have
told
me
you
could
transfer
to
a
different
university
.
You
can
do
all
these
.
Just
because
you
studied
psychology
doesn't
mean
you
that's
what
you
have
to
do
for
the
rest
of
your
life
.
It
matters
what
you
do
if
you
have
a
master's
program
for
certain
things
,
and
you
know
,
I've
had
to
learn
so
many
things
on
my
own
,
and
so
that's
why
I
created
endosipota
.
I
wanted
people
to
immediately
know
from
the
name
I
have
endo
,
and
then
I'm
a
Sipota
,
a
Central
American
girl
,
and
that's
the
perspective
that
I
have
.
I'm
the
first
in
the
family
to
do
everything
and
endometriosis
.
I'm
the
first
in
the
family
to
do
endometriosis
,
and
it
explains
,
maybe
,
why
my
grandmother
had
horrific
periods
right
she's
not
with
us
now
,
but
,
oh
man
,
maybe
grandmother
had
endometriosis
right
or
just
being
more
empathetic
and
sympathetic
to
like
the
other
woman
in
our
family
that
might
be
dealing
with
this
.
So
that's
what
I
want
to
do
.
Speaker 2
35:20
I
understand
the
cultural
reasons
why
you
might
not
go
to
a
gynecologist
because
you're
supposed
to
be
a
virgin
until
you
get
married
.
I
understand
that
our
family
teaches
us
that
tampons
take
your
virginity
.
I
understand
that
we're
very
natural
,
organic
,
fresh
food
from
the
farm
focus
and
we
think
that
that's
going
to
solve
all
the
issues
and
that
surgery
is
extreme
and
lazy
.
This
is
a
lot
of
the
programming
that
I
got
just
from
my
own
family
,
so
you
have
to
fight
also
against
that
cultural
part
of
it
that
can
be
tough
.
I'm
explaining
a
disease
that
may
cause
infertility
to
a
Latino
family
where
,
like
having
a
child
is
,
and
American
culture
is
the
same
Having
a
child
is
the
biggest
accomplishment
that
a
woman
can
have
Becoming
a
mother
,
becoming
a
matriarch
,
developing
her
matriarchal
line
.
Speaker 2
36:05
There's
so
much
honor
and
pride
and
carrying
the
family
name
.
I
never
talked
about
it
because
I
got
tired
of
my
family
asking
me
when
I
was
going
to
have
a
kid
,
because
I'm
just
like
I'm
in
pain
.
I
can
barely
take
care
of
myself
right
now
.
I
passed
out
on
the
bathroom
floor
and
when
I
woke
up
I
had
pooped
myself
Right
.
Speaker 1
36:28
I
can't
have
a
kid
right
now
.
I
can't
even
take
care
of
myself
right
now
.
It's
like
you
can't
,
right
,
I'm
the
baby
Right
.
And
you
know
I
will
tell
you
,
as
someone
who
had
two
ablation
surgeries
and
then
I
was
able
to
get
pregnant
,
my
endosymptoms
came
full
force
after
my
first
child
.
It
is
not
easy
to
parent
with
endo
.
You
have
a
lot
of
guilt
associated
with
that
and
you
have
a
lot
of
trauma
associated
with
that
.
And
my
oldest
will
tell
you
now
mom
,
I
remember
when
you
were
on
the
couch
.
I
remember
when
you
were
throwing
up
.
I
always
have
like
Ziploc
bags
for
my
kids
to
throw
up
in
.
You
know
people
have
buckets
.
I
have
bags
because
it's
easier
for
them
to
carry
around
.
But
I
had
those
and
so
my
daughter
remembers
me
carrying
around
my
Ziploc
bag
.
And
then
,
after
my
second
child
was
born
,
it
got
so
bad
that
I
mentally
some
days
couldn't
handle
being
mom
and
endopatient
and
the
guilt
associated
.
Speaker 2
37:28
So
I
can't
even
imagine
.
Speaker 1
37:29
I
mean
,
I
think
that
is
something
to
you
know
culturally
,
when
you're
expected
to
have
a
child
at
a
certain
age
or
at
a
certain
stage
of
your
relationship
,
but
you
physically
just
feel
like
you
can't
.
Speaker 2
37:41
It's
okay
.
And
I
was
also
told
that
I
was
infertile
,
right
.
So
I
was
30
when
I
had
my
excision
surgery
and
Dr
Vidal
,
I
was
like
you're
fine
,
you
can
totally
have
kids
.
There
was
no
physical
damage
to
your
sex
organs
and
your
AMH
is
fine
.
I
had
already
prepared
for
a
life
without
children
.
Speaker 2
37:58
And
then
I
met
my
husband
,
who
made
me
want
to
have
kids
and
we're
going
to
hopefully
try
soon
,
but
it's
a
sensitive
topic
,
right
?
Just
what
you
explained
,
right
?
Like
,
even
if
you're
having
a
no
matrices
and
you're
able
to
have
children
,
it's
still
a
very
difficult
conversation
to
have
,
because
I've
heard
from
a
lot
of
moms
that
they
have
this
guilt
.
I
admire
you
because
I
just
think
,
like
,
how
lucky
that
those
kids
have
an
endo
mom
,
because
you're
somebody
who
is
going
to
be
so
compassionate
and
empathetic
to
when
they're
in
pain
or
they're
not
feeling
well
,
and
you'll
know
to
just
pay
a
little
bit
more
attention
to
that
detail
and
when
it
comes
to
their
medical
care
,
oh
my
God
,
who
better
than
you
?
I
think
it's
a
privilege
to
be
loved
by
an
endo
mom
,
so
I
think
you're
awesome
and
I
think
those
kids
are
very
lucky
,
even
if
they
have
those
moments
that
they
bring
up
where
you
might
feel
guilty
.
So
thank
you
.
Speaker 2
38:49
I
think
it's
a
great
way
to
have
a
drink
that
not
everyone
does
,
so
yeah
,
that's
a
great
way
to
put
that
.
Speaker 1
38:56
Thank
you
,
that
was
a
little
confidence
booster
,
but
I'm
still
saving
for
therapy
for
them
,
just
for
other
reasons
.
Speaker 2
39:07
It's
like
I
told
my
therapist
I'm
like
I'm
so
afraid
of
messing
my
kids
up
you
know
that
I
don't
have
and
she
was
like
that's
okay
,
there's
going
to
be
a
therapist
for
them
too
.
Speaker 1
39:16
Yeah
,
for
us
all
and
that
was
a
good
point
.
Yeah
,
I
was
like
the
therapist
can
fix
it
.
That's
right
,
I'm
saving
for
it
.
It's
fine
.
This
has
been
so
fun
to
sit
down
.
I
feel
like
we
need
to
do
like
a
part
two
,
part
three
,
part
four
,
part
five
.
I
mean
we'll
do
this
again
because
you're
a
wealth
of
knowledge
,
but
your
compassion
and
your
background
and
your
story
it
highlights
just
some
beauty
within
the
endometriosis
community
In
the
disease
.
That
is
not
beautiful
.
You
have
created
such
a
beautiful
outlook
about
it
and
just
the
way
that
you
have
navigated
that
,
even
though
it's
been
tough
,
is
impactful
.
Thank
you
,
oh
my
gosh
.
Speaker 2
39:57
I
can't
turn
the
red
here
.
They
got
to
make
a
bomb
.
Speaker 1
40:01
No
,
I
just
I've
been
following
you
for
a
while
anyway
online
and
then
it
was
like
hey
,
you
know
we
had
connected
and
I
was
like
you
are
just
a
really
sweet
,
sincere
person
that
has
a
lot
to
offer
so
many
people
,
and
that's
why
I'm
so
excited
that
you're
doing
your
new
publication
posts
.
I'm
really
excited
for
those
.
Speaker 2
40:18
It's
just
going
to
be
Latinas
who
are
first
one
.
Like
me
,
it'll
be
in
English
.
Perfect
,
and
I
eventually
will
.
I
do
have
some
stuff
in
Spanish
and
I
will
always
speak
Spanish
because
I
am
bilingual
,
but
yeah
,
no
,
these
will
be
in
English
.
So
if
,
even
if
you're
not
Latina
,
you're
more
than
welcome
.
If
you
have
endometriosis
and
you
want
to
hear
from
somebody
else
who
has
endometriosis
how
they're
navigating
college
,
career
search
,
self-advocacy
,
how
to
find
the
right
doctors
,
come
and
sit
with
us
,
you're
more
than
welcome
.
Speaker 1
40:45
Yeah
,
and
that's
the
chronic
RBF
.
That's
what
you're
starting
.
Speaker 2
40:50
Yes
,
name
of
my
newsletter
yeah
,
because
I
always
got
a
curious
of
having
resting
bitch
face
and
I
was
like
I
was
in
pain
.
That's
all
I
was
.
I
think
I
was
better
than
anybody
.
I
just
literally
was
trying
to
fall
off
my
chair
and
oh
,
I
was
pretty
irritable
.
Speaker 1
41:03
My
mom
will
tell
you
.
Actually
she
came
on
the
podcast
and
she
was
like
you
were
pretty
irritable
.
I
was
,
but
I
was
,
it
was
because
of
my
pain
.
Response
to
how
could
you
not
be
?
Speaker 2
41:11
Right
,
you're
in
pain
every
second
,
like
how
could
you
not
be
irritable
?
That's
why
I
have
so
much
compassion
now
for
anybody
Appreciation for Back Support and Advocacy
Speaker 2
41:18
.
Like
anytime
anybody
tells
me
like
I
hurt
my
back
,
I'm
like
I
get
it
.
Sit
down
,
relax
,
I'm
going
to
baby
you
,
it's
going
to
be
okay
.
Speaker 1
41:25
You
can
come
my
way
and
baby
me
any
day
when
I
hurt
my
back
.
Speaker 2
41:29
I
will
happily
do
so
.
Speaker 1
41:30
Okay
,
perfect
.
Natalie
,
thank
you
so
much
for
taking
the
time
and
just
spending
that
with
me
.
I
just
really
appreciate
you
.
Thank
you
.
Speaker 2
41:39
I
appreciate
you
too
,
and
your
podcast
is
badass
.
Thank
,
you
.
Thanks
for
all
the
work
you
do
.
Speaker 1
41:44
Oh
.
Speaker 2
41:45
I
can't
imagine
how
much
work
it
is
,
but
I'm
sure
it's
a
lot
.
Speaker 1
41:47
It
is
a
lot
,
but
it's
worth
it
.
When
I
know
that
people
have
been
helped
,
it
is
totally
worth
it
.
Every
hour
,
until
next
time
,
everyone
continue
advocating
for
you
and
for
those
that
you
love
.