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Join us for an enlightening conversation with Heather Florio, CEO of Desert Harvest, as she shares her extraordinary journey in advocating for pelvic and sexual health. Heather discusses the foundation of Desert Harvest, a company born from an accidental discovery of aloe vera’s healing properties for interstitial cystitis, and how her personal battles with chronic health conditions drive her mission. Discover the innovative strides her company has made under her leadership, showcasing products designed to improve the lives of women dealing with issues like endometriosis and chronic uterine fibroids.
Explore the promising synergy between CBD and aloe vera in addressing neuropathic pain, backed by research from McGill University. We dive into the significant role of pelvic floor therapy in managing pain, especially for those with endometriosis, and discuss how integrating alternative therapies with traditional medical treatments can yield the best outcomes. Heather offers valuable insights into how these approaches can work together to provide relief, highlighting the need for a balanced partnership between holistic and medical care.
Finally, we tackle the broader challenges in women’s health research, including the complexities of conditions such as vulvodynia. Heather discusses innovative initiatives like the Her Health AI project, which seeks to enhance our understanding of these under-researched conditions by analyzing global health data. Through her collaboration with top-tier researchers and institutions, Heather is dedicated to advancing women’s health and ensuring the integrity of health products, particularly those made from aloe vera. Join us for a compelling discussion that blends personal stories, expert insights, and a steadfast commitment to improving women’s health worldwide.
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Healing Through Endometriosis With Aloe
Speaker 1
0:02
Welcome
to
EndoBattery
,
where
I
share
my
journey
with
endometriosis
and
chronic
illness
,
while
learning
and
growing
along
the
way
.
This
podcast
is
not
a
substitute
for
medical
advice
,
but
a
supportive
space
to
provide
community
and
valuable
information
so
you
never
have
to
face
this
journey
alone
.
We
embrace
a
range
of
perspectives
that
may
not
always
align
with
our
own
.
Believing
that
open
dialogue
helps
us
grow
and
gain
new
tools
always
align
with
our
own
.
Believing
that
open
dialogue
helps
us
grow
and
gain
new
tools
.
Join
me
as
I
share
stories
of
strength
,
resilience
and
hope
,
from
personal
experiences
to
expert
insights
.
I'm
your
host
,
alana
,
and
this
is
IndoBattery
charging
our
lives
when
endometriosis
drains
us
.
Welcome
back
to
IndoBattery
.
Grab
your
cup
of
coffee
or
your
cup
of
tea
and
join
me
at
the
table
Today
.
Speaker 1
0:46
I'm
thrilled
to
welcome
Heather
Florio
,
the
second
generation
owner
and
CEO
of
Desert
Harvest
.
Heather
is
a
leader
in
innovating
sustainable
solutions
for
pelvic
and
sexual
health
,
and
her
dedication
to
this
field
has
earned
her
recognition
as
one
of
the
top
50
women
in
wellness
by
Authority
Magazine
and
a
feature
in
Forbes'
Top
Women
in
Business
.
With
nearly
30
years
of
Desert
Harvest
Advancing
change
through
medical
research
and
product
innovation
,
heather
has
become
a
trusted
pelvic
health
specialist
and
sexpert
,
sharing
her
expertise
on
platforms
,
panels
and
conferences
around
the
globe
.
Her
passion
for
supporting
those
with
chronic
pelvic
health
issues
is
truly
inspiring
and
I
cannot
wait
to
hear
from
her
wealth
of
knowledge
.
Speaker 1
1:29
Thank
you
,
heather
,
so
much
for
joining
me
today
and
taking
the
time
to
sit
down
with
me
and
share
your
story
,
and
share
your
background
and
what
you're
doing
with
your
company
,
but
also
in
efforts
to
help
others
in
their
quality
of
life
and
in
their
journey
for
healing
.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
joining
me
.
Thanks
,
solana
,
for
having
me
.
It's
my
pleasure
.
Can
you
give
us
a
background
,
a
little
bit
,
of
who
you
are
and
what
you
do
?
Oh
goodness
,
yeah
,
it's
a
big
question
.
Speaker 2
1:59
Big
question
.
So
I
am
Heather
Florio
,
the
ceo
of
desert
harvest
.
Desert
harvest
has
been
doing
pelvic
and
sexual
health
products
for
over
31
years
now
.
We
started
in
1993
.
We
predominantly
focus
on
women's
health
because
about
75
of
our
demographic
is
women
,
so
for
us
,
it's
been
a
part
of
my
life
,
my
entire
adult
life
.
We
are
a
family
company
.
Speaker 2
2:26
I'm
a
second
generation
owner
and
for
me
,
when
I
took
over
in
2012
,
it
really
became
a
mission
for
me
as
a
woman
,
as
a
mother
who
experienced
dealing
with
chronic
uterine
fibroids
,
endometriosis
,
pcos
.
It
was
a
journey
,
a
struggle
of
my
own
,
and
so
it
really
became
important
to
me
to
start
to
advocate
for
other
women
,
create
products
that
really
,
truly
actually
made
a
difference
for
women
,
above
and
beyond
even
our
existing
product
line
.
At
that
time
,
I
really
wanted
to
bring
in
tools
for
pelvic
floor
physical
therapy
,
ways
in
which
we
could
meet
the
entire
needs
,
because
I
see
the
unmet
needs
,
I
talk
with
women
every
day
,
and
let
alone
my
own
struggles
,
and
so
for
me
,
this
is
Desert
Harvest
has
been
my
journey
of
my
own
health
journey
and
my
journey
of
helping
others
through
their
own
health
journeys
.
Speaker 1
3:34
Yeah
,
it's
interesting
that
you
started
this
,
but
with
the
premise
of
aloe
being
so
healing
.
Why
was
it
that
you
and
your
family
gravitated
towards
this
aloe-based
product
and
seeing
that
as
healing
?
Speaker 2
3:48
So
that
was
actually
kind
of
accidental
.
So
our
Keystone
product
that
started
our
company
in
1993
was
our
Super
Strength
Aloe
Vera
capsules
,
our
SSAV
capsules
,
and
those
have
not
changed
in
over
31
years
.
It
happened
to
be
by
accident
.
My
aunt
had
the
bladder
disorder
,
interstitial
cystitis
,
and
for
those
they
don't
know
what
this
is
.
This
is
debilitatingly
painful
Imagine
having
the
worst
UTI
you've
ever
had
but
it
never
goes
away
.
And
that
is
what
interstitial
cystitis
feels
like
.
Speaker 2
4:21
It
predominantly
affects
about
75%
women
,
25%
men
,
and
affects
about
8
to
12
million
people
in
the
United
States
alone
,
and
so
it's
very
silent
,
not
understood
,
and
you
can
imagine
,
back
in
the
90s
many
doctors
didn't
even
consider
it
a
valid
diagnosis
.
It
was
all
in
your
head
,
as
most
women's
conditions
have
been
at
one
time
or
another
,
and
so
it
very
much
became
for
us
to
try
to
find
something
to
help
her
,
and
came
across
some
random
aloe
vera
product
at
a
natural
products
conference
.
My
aunt
took
the
entire
bottle
,
but
she
slept
through
the
night
,
which
for
an
IC
patient
they're
voiding
up
to
as
much
as
50
to
80
times
a
day
,
and
so
nocturia
sleeping
is
very
difficult
to
have
a
continuous
night's
sleep
,
and
so
for
her
to
sleep
through
the
night
.
We're
like
wait
a
second
,
there's
something
here
.
And
so
we
began
looking
further
,
because
aloe
vera
naturally
has
what's
called
anthraquinones
in
it
.
They're
latex
chemicals
that
naturally
,
over
time
they
act
as
an
irritant
to
the
colon
and
long-term
,
have
been
proven
to
be
carcinogenic
to
the
colon
,
can
cause
kidney
damage
,
liver
damage
.
Speaker 2
5:35
So
what
you
see
in
the
health
food
stores
are
meant
for
short-term
use
digestive
aids
and
what
we
were
trying
to
create
was
something
that
you
take
in
long-term
use
digestive
aids
.
And
what
we
were
trying
to
create
was
something
that
you
take
in
long-term
and
,
as
our
double-blind
placebo-controlled
studies
have
shown
,
in
high
doses
.
And
so
we
had
to
figure
out
how
to
make
it
safe
for
long-term
use
,
and
we
developed
our
patented
formulation
that
we
still
use
today
,
in
which
we
filter
out
all
of
those
anthraquinones
,
all
the
insoluble
fiber
,
all
of
the
excess
water
.
Aloe
vera
is
over
90
,
almost
98
point
something
percent
water
,
and
so
it's
very
,
very
concentrated
.
If
you
take
one
of
our
180
capsule
bottles
of
our
super
strength
aloe
vera
,
that
is
roughly
89
full
grown
aloe
,
barbadendis
,
miller
leaves
that
are
,
like
you
know
,
four
feet
long
,
and
and
that
takes
roughly
89
of
those
to
make
one
bottle
for
us
.
Speaker 1
6:35
Wow
,
how
do
you
produce
all
of
this
?
This
is
,
this
is
just
my
like
curious
mind
thinking
where
does
this
come
from
?
Speaker 2
6:43
Yeah
,
and
we've
you
know
,
obviously
learned
a
lot
about
aloe
through
throughout
these
31
years
.
And
and
now
it
becomes
like
second
nature
for
us
,
because
,
you
know
,
when
we
were
very
early
on
um
,
it
was
sourcing
the
fields
.
We
wanted
to
make
sure
everything
.
We
followed
it
all
the
way
from
field
to
bottle
.
So
our
fields
are
in
Mexico
because
it's
an
ideal
growing
climate
,
although
the
hurricanes
this
past
summer
did
not
agree
with
us
.
Speaker 2
7:13
But
the
good
news
is
aloe
vera
is
very
hardy
,
so
it's
already
naturally
pesticide
resistant
,
so
easily
organic
.
And
then
it's
a
hydrophilic
plant
,
so
it
retains
its
own
water
like
a
cactus
,
and
so
it
doesn't
matter
how
little
or
how
much
water
it
gets
,
it
just
kind
of
changes
the
color
,
taste
and
smell
for
us
.
And
then
we're
harvesting
it
.
So
as
you
cut
an
aloe
vera
leaf
off
of
a
plant
,
malic
acid
immediately
begins
to
eat
away
at
the
nutrients
in
the
aloe
vera
.
There
are
over
200
nutrients
in
the
aloe
vera
plant
and
75
of
them
are
active
,
and
so
it's
very
important
for
us
to
concentrate
and
maximize
those
nutrients
,
because
within
six
to
eight
hours
of
cutting
that
leaf
off
,
all
of
the
nutrients
are
dead
because
malic
acid
is
eating
away
at
it
,
and
so
at
that
point
you've
got
expensive
water
is
all
you
have
,
and
so
it's
very
important
within
20
minutes
of
cutting
off
a
leaf
,
where
we're
in
production
,
processing
and
preserving
the
leaves
on
site
at
the
farm
and
then
finishing
our
own
production
in
our
own
production
facility
.
Speaker 1
8:23
So
how
is
this
beneficial
for
those
who
are
curious
about
the
properties
of
aloe
and
the
benefits
of
aloe
?
How
is
this
beneficial
to
those
of
us
in
like
the
endometriosis
community
or
those
who
deal
with
chronic
pain
Because
this
did
start
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
as
a
way
to
help
those
going
through
cancer
treatments
topically
?
Speaker 2
8:43
We
do
have
topicals
that
do
benefit
that
so
like
,
for
instance
,
when
you
talk
about
pelvic
pain
,
the
relivium
.
This
is
the
topical
that
was
developed
for
cancer
patients
undergoing
radiation
treatments
.
Typically
,
you
get
radiation
burns
undergoing
treatment
and
these
aren't
your
typical
burns
like
a
kitchen
burn
or
a
sunburn
.
They're
much
more
complex
and
so
,
like
we
have
our
aloe
vera
jelly
,
which
you
would
typically
think
of
using
on
a
sunburn
,
you
can
use
it
anywhere
on
the
body
.
You
can
use
it
on
the
vulva
,
you
can
refrigerate
it
for
a
cooling
effect
.
But
we
knew
that
radiation
dermatitis
needed
something
a
little
bit
more
complex
,
so
we
developed
the
relievium
,
which
has
our
aloe
vera
as
the
number
one
ingredient
,
but
a
whole
patented
blend
of
plant
botanicals
that
were
chosen
for
their
ability
to
either
be
speed
healing
,
be
an
analgesic
,
be
an
anti-inflammatory
,
help
with
discoloration
of
tissue
,
plus
4%
lidocaine
for
pain
.
Speaker 1
9:40
I
love
it
so
much
yeah
.
Speaker 2
9:44
So
and
and
so
typically
,
like
a
normal
lidocaine
gel
that
you
might
get
prescribed
is
one
to
two
hours
on
average
that
it
lasts
.
But
typically
you
can
only
reapply
lidocaine
every
three
hours
on
average
because
of
our
aloe
vera
.
So
aloe
vera
also
acts
as
a
carrier
.
You'll
find
it
in
all
of
our
supplement
lines
.
You'll
find
a
little
bit
of
aloe
vera
in
any
of
our
skincare
supplement
products
,
and
the
reason
is
is
it's
acting
as
that
carrier
to
make
things
more
systemic
.
So
the
lidocaine
typically
lasts
about
four
to
six
hours
on
average
.
So
that
is
kind
of
what
makes
the
Relievium
unique
.
Speaker 2
10:22
And
then
we
recommend
utilizing
that
on
the
vulva
specifically
,
or
maybe
on
the
vestibule
,
like
before
sex
,
for
dilator
work
,
for
wand
work
,
anything
to
get
past
pain
barriers
,
essentially
,
and
so
that
sits
right
there
.
It
is
going
to
be
isoosmolar
,
ph
balanced
,
everything
else
like
that
.
But
what
we
recommend
using
in
combination
with
is
our
Alloglide
,
which
is
our
FDA
cleared
medical
devices
,
sexual
lubricant
and
a
vaginal
moisturizer
,
and
so
you
can
utilize
that
with
vaginal
tools
of
any
type
or
for
sex
itself
.
And
you
might
think
,
oh
my
gosh
,
how
am
I
going
to
use
lidocaine
during
sex
?
I'm
going
to
numb
,
I'm
not
going
to
feel
.
But
that's
not
actually
the
case
.
All
it
actually
does
is
it
actually
extends
a
man's
erection
,
and
so
it
can
help
with
things
like
ED
.
It
actually
does
not
desensitize
like
you
would
think
.
Speaker 1
11:17
That's
fascinating
.
See
,
I
am
a
personal
fan
and
you
know
this
.
I'm
a
personal
fan
of
that
product
specifically
and
I
actually
it's
one
of
my
favorite
products
that
I've
used
because
I
love
that
lidocaine
feature
of
it
.
So
I
really
like
that
product
.
For
those
who
are
curious
,
from
personal
experience
,
it's
probably
one
of
my
favorite
products
to
use
.
But
what
are
the
benefits
of
aloe
for
those
walking
through
chronic
illnesses
?
Because
you
know
,
we
are
exposed
and
sensitive
to
a
lot
of
other
chemicals
.
We're
exposed
and
sensitive
to
what
we
put
in
our
bodies
.
We
also
probably
need
more
of
this
stuff
to
help
manage
our
day-to-day
lives
.
And
so
what
are
some
of
the
benefits
that
you're
seeing
that
aloe
have
help
in
this
space
?
Speaker 2
12:01
So
there's
a
variety
of
different
ways
.
So
you
know
we
talk
about
the
interstitial
cystitis
CBD and Pelvic Floor Therapy
Speaker 2
12:07
.
We're
actually
studying
our
CBD
right
now
with
our
aloe
vera
in
combination
,
so
this
is
again
acting
as
a
carrier
.
So
this
isn't
full
spectrum
,
this
isn't
broad
spectrum
.
It
doesn't
have
any
other
endocannabinoids
in
it
.
Speaker 2
12:23
We
focus
specifically
on
CBD
and
the
reason
is
is
we
found
that
it's
what
was
best
at
isolating
different
pain
mechanisms
in
our
research
at
McGill
University
,
and
so
we
studied
different
pain
models
chronic
nerve
injury
pain
had
a
56%
reduction
after
24
hours
.
Bladder
pain
had
a
reduction
after
78%
reduction
after
24
hours
,
and
similar
for
chemotherapy
pain
,
surgical
pain
,
and
so
what
we're
trying
to
do
right
now
is
develop
models
that
will
then
look
at
other
women's
health
conditions
,
such
as
endometriosis
,
pcos
,
uterine
fibroids
,
and
see
what
kind
of
effect
it
has
on
these
conditions
where
we
lack
treatments
,
we
lack
resources
,
but
we
sure
as
heck
deal
with
a
lot
of
pain
.
And
how
does
this
respond
to
those
mechanisms
of
pain
?
Because
,
as
anybody
probably
knows
,
cbd
out
on
the
market
cannabis
products
,
things
like
that
,
or
like
it
cares
,
takes
care
of
everything
and
we
know
that's
not
true
.
We
know
that
in
our
research
we
found
that
muscular
pain
,
joint
pain
,
those
types
of
things
didn't
really
respond
well
to
the
CBD
that
it
was
specifically
for
neuropathic
type
pain
Interesting
.
Speaker 1
13:45
That's
really
fascinating
what
you
just
said
as
far
as
it
being
the
neuropathic
pain
is
amazing
.
But
then
I
think
about
me
personally
,
who
has
muscular
skeletal
issues
with
joints
and
other
things
.
How
do
these
play
and
marry
together
to
be
beneficial
as
a
whole
body
component
?
Speaker 2
14:04
Well
,
that's
where
you
really
have
to
kind
of
go
into
.
So
the
Relievium
is
naturally
going
to
go
systemic
.
Glycocaine
has
been
proven
effective
on
muscular
pain
externally
because
it
can
go
through
all
the
layers
of
the
dermis
.
Interestingly
enough
,
cannabis
products
cannot
.
Cannabis
is
inert
Cann
cannabis
topically
?
It
just
sits
there
on
the
top
of
the
skin
.
It
is
a
great
moisturizer
.
But
you'll
see
things
like
camphor
,
menthol
,
arnican
,
lidocaine
,
things
like
that
.
These
are
ingredients
that
have
shown
to
be
transdermal
and
go
down
and
have
effects
in
the
muscular
tissues
and
be
able
to
go
transdermal
.
But
cannabis
,
cbd
,
all
that
stuff
,
no
,
not
at
all
,
and
that's
been
proven
in
our
research
as
well
.
So
for
us
,
when
we're
looking
,
the
relivium
would
make
the
best
sense
topically
.
In
that
sense
,
if
you
are
looking
to
address
something
from
a
topical
perspective
,
the
CBD
is
going
to
be
your
ingestible
and
ingestible
related
to
that
.
Speaker 2
15:08
And
then
when
you
talk
the
mescal
skeletal
system
,
that's
where
you
really
need
to
get
into
pelvic
floor
physical
therapy
,
because
that
actually
has
your
pelvic
floor
is
your
hammock
to
your
entire
body
and
so
you
are
literally
when
you
have
an
injury
or
pain
anywhere
in
your
body
,
it's
going
to
affect
your
pelvic
floor
.
So
you
imagine
,
like
when
you
get
into
a
car
accident
or
something
and
everything
tenses
up
.
That's
what's
happening
to
your
pelvic
floor
when
you
have
pain
or
injury
anywhere
else
in
your
body
,
injury
anywhere
else
in
your
body
.
So
,
for
instance
,
just
to
give
you
an
example
,
we
have
our
pelvic
easy
magic
Theravons
.
Speaker 2
15:48
These
are
pelvic
floor
tools
that
can
be
used
at
home
in
conjunction
with
pelvic
floor
physical
therapy
to
help
release
trigger
points
in
muscles
,
either
internally
or
externally
,
and
those
are
really
help
with
the
hypertonic
pelvic
floor
,
because
our
initial
thought
is
let's
go
to
Kegels
,
and
that
is
not
what
you
want
to
do
right
off
the
bat
.
That's
why
it's
always
good
to
go
to
a
pelvic
PT
,
get
your
musculature
evaluated
,
because
if
you're
hypertonic
and
you
start
doing
Kegels
,
you're
going
to
make
things
worse
and
,
as
such
,
it's
just
going
to
get
tighter
and
tighter
.
Imagine
,
like
a
dish
rag
and
you're
wringing
it
out
,
just
going
to
keep
wringing
it
out
.
And
so
you
really
need
to
be
able
to
release
those
pelvic
floor
muscles
.
Because
,
for
instance
I
was
going
to
mention
in
the
UK
,
all
the
UK
footballers
utilize
our
pelvic
ones
to
get
out
because
an
injury
at
anywhere
in
their
body
.
It
doesn't
matter
where
they
do
pelvic
floor
physical
therapy
,
because
it
gets
them
out
on
the
field
three
times
faster
than
if
they
had
not
had
pelvic
floor
physical
therapy
.
Speaker 1
16:58
I
have
greatly
benefited
from
that
and
I
always
tell
people
you
know
we
hear
in
the
endometriosis
community
excision
is
step
one
.
And
I
always
tell
people
you
know
we
hear
in
the
endometriosis
community
no-transcript
,
because
you
can't
get
a
good
base
if
you
don't
start
with
correcting
some
of
the
things
that
we've
been
holding
on
to
so
tightly
.
And
I
will
tell
you
,
healing
happens
much
better
once
you
do
pelvic
floor
physical
therapy
and
you
ask
those
who
have
been
in
pelvic
floor
physical
therapy
forever
,
maybe
then
they
go
have
excision
and
their
recovery
tends
to
be
a
lot
faster
,
kind
of
regardless
of
the
stage
of
endo
,
you
know
,
comparatively
to
those
who
don't
start
it
with
similar
disease
.
And
so
I
think
I
really
really
advocate
for
those
,
for
people
to
go
into
pelvic
floor
physical
therapy
,
first
while
you're
waiting
for
your
surgery
,
while
you're
waiting
to
be
seen
,
and
then
on
top
of
that
,
finding
modalities
that
can
be
soothing
to
your
system
can
kind
of
downregulate
your
system
from
being
in
such
a
heightened
state
.
So
I
love
the
mentality
that
you
guys
have
in
holistic
healing
as
much
as
possible
without
diminishing
the
value
of
medical
healing
as
well
.
Speaker 1
18:12
You
know
you
and
I
have
talked
about
this
.
It
has
to
be
a
good
partnership
in
holistic
and
medical
.
Otherwise
the
quality
of
care
is
probably
not
as
good
as
it
could
be
,
and
I've
seen
that
personally
in
my
own
life
.
How
do
you
recommend
when
people
are
pre-surgical
searching
their
highest
and
their
lowest
to
find
some
symptomatic
relief
Like
what
place
does
aloe
play
in
that
?
Speaker 2
18:35
I
would
say
the
biggest
thing
that
would
play
the
biggest
role
is
not
necessarily
like
our
aloe
vera
capsules
,
unless
we're
talking
about
your
bladder
and
interstitial
cystitis
The Importance of Pelvic Floor Therapy
Speaker 2
18:44
.
Realistically
,
what
is
going
to
make
the
biggest
difference
is
definitely
,
you
know
.
You
kind
of
hit
the
nail
on
the
head
and
saying
you
know
you
did
pelvic
floor
physical
therapy
before
excision
surgery
.
This
is
should
be
,
the
standard
of
care
.
So
we
should
be
having
pelvic
floor
physical
therapy
before
we
give
birth
.
We
should
be
having
pelvic
floor
physical
therapy
before
we
have
an
excision
surgery
.
We
should
be
having
pelvic
floor
physical
therapy
before
we
have
a
hysterectomy
.
All
of
these
things
will
make
a
difference
in
your
quality
of
life
afterwards
and
the
benefits
that
the
surgery
should
provide
.
You
will
have
10
times
more
benefit
of
not
having
after
birth
pain
,
not
having
to
deal
.
You'll
recover
faster
from
excision
surgery
,
from
hysterectomies
.
All
of
these
as
a
result
of
strengthening
your
pelvic
floor
ahead
of
time
to
prepare
yourself
for
the
trauma
that
your
pelvic
floor
is
about
,
ready
to
undergo
.
Speaker 2
19:51
Whether
it's
any
of
those
three
things
I'm
mentioning
childbirth
,
excision
surgery
,
hysterectomy
that
is
the
number
one
thing
that
I
would
recommend
we
have
it
.
For
instance
,
if
you
cannot
get
to
pelvic
floor
physical
therapy
and
you
wanted
to
see
what
you
could
do
at
home
,
I
did
co-write
a
book
with
a
doctor
at
Duke
University
called
the
musculoskeletal
mystery
how
to
Solve
your
Pelvic
Floor
Symptoms
.
It's
something
that's
also
sold
here
at
Desert
Harvest
,
so
that
can
be
an
at-home
guide
for
you
for
how
to
use
the
wands
,
how
to
feel
your
musculature
and
understand
it
.
It's
an
at-home
guide
for
those
that
may
not
be
able
to
get
to
pelvic
floor
physical
therapy
.
That
then
can
be
used
in
conjunction
with
the
pelvic
wands
and
in
conjunction
with
the
alloglide
,
with
the
wands
and
,
if
you
need
to
get
past
pain
barrier
,
utilizing
that
Relievium
in
combination
to
help
get
past
that
pain
barrier
for
pain
,
while
also
being
therapeutic
at
the
same
time
.
Speaker 1
20:56
Yeah
,
I
think
that's
huge
.
I
think
we
undervalue
therapeutic
measures
of
pain
relief
.
You
probably
see
this
as
well
,
but
the
first
line
of
defense
for
most
providers
is
going
to
be
your
NSAIDs
,
your
narcotics
things
that
they
understand
right
,
this
is
what
they're
trained
for
.
So
of
course
,
a
lot
not
all
are
going
to
provide
you
access
to
these
things
,
but
it
doesn't
really
get
to
the
root
of
what's
happening
in
ways
to
help
alleviate
some
of
that
tension
and
some
of
that
stress
and
some
of
that
pain
.
So
I
really
like
that
approach
,
because
it's
not
always
accessible
to
go
to
a
pelvic
floor
PT
and
actually
it's
really
hard
to
find
a
good
one
.
Here
in
Colorado
,
where
I'm
at
,
there
aren't
many
pelvic
floor
PTs
that
understand
endometriosis
.
Speaker 2
21:43
And
a
lot
of
them
have
their
own
specialties
.
A
lot
of
them
have
their
own
specialty
,
and
you
have
to
think
that
there's
only
about
between
1200
and
1500
pelvic
PTs
in
the
entire
United
States
.
Compared
to
the
population
of
women
,
that's
not
a
lot
and
,
yeah
,
and
we
need
so
so
many
more
pelvic
floor
physical
therapists
.
Speaker 1
22:04
Yeah
,
so
this
is
actually
a
call
out
for
all
those
young
PTs
we're
trying
to
recruit
right
now
.
Speaker 2
22:11
Yes
,
when
you're
trying
to
choose
your
discipline
in
school
pelvic
PT
is
it
?
Speaker 1
22:17
You
will
never
be
bored
a
day
in
your
life
.
No
,
no
,
no
,
no
.
I
know
I
was
talking
to
my
pelvic
floor
PT
and
she's
like
I'm
pretty
sure
I
get
to
see
all
the
weird
cases
of
things
happen
and
she's
like
I
am
always
constantly
learning
and
growing
and
progressing
.
She
goes
I
see
so
many
different
things
come
through
my
office
and
I
hear
all
the
stories
.
So
I'm
just
saying
there's
room
that
you
will
continue
to
grow
within
that
and
you
will
be
a
better
physical
therapist
for
it
.
Not
that
I'm
like
a
recruiting
agent
,
but
just
saying
I
think
we
need
more
.
Speaker 2
22:53
Oh
,
we
need
so
,
so
,
so
much
more
.
You
know
,
in
the
UK
we
worked
with
this
program
to
be
able
to
get
the
national
health
system
to
change
the
standard
of
care
.
I
wish
we
could
do
this
here
.
It's
a
little
easier
when
you
have
socialized
medicine
like
this
,
so
that
essentially
the
standard
of
care
is
when
a
pregnant
woman
goes
in
and
she
has
,
it's
like
an
all-in-one
.
You
go
to
that
first
appointment
and
you
get
your
prenatals
and
you
get
all
this
.
It's
also
you
go
to
the
pelvic
PT
down
the
hall
and
you
schedule
your
appointment
because
that's
part
of
the
standard
of
care
and
you
can
have
resources
for
lactation
,
everything
all
in
one
office
.
So
literally
you're
getting
everything
that
you
need
in
one
place
.
Speaker 2
23:38
And
that
is
what
I
would
love
to
envision
here
in
the
United
States
one
day
is
is
that
when
you
go
into
a
women's
health
clinic
or
you're
going
for
your
gynecology
appointment
,
you're
going
to
deal
with
your
endometriosis
,
you're
going
,
you
have
an
all
in
one
place
in
which
you
can
get
all
of
the
resources
.
Now
,
obviously
,
you
know
we're
still
limited
in
our
understanding
.
You
know
you
talk
about
throwing
out
NSAIDs
and
whatever
.
It's
because
we
have
a
limitation
of
understanding
in
the
medical
community
of
and
when
you
don't
know
what
to
give
,
you
don't
know
what
to
do
,
you
don't
you
know
what
are
you
going
to
do
.
Speaker 2
24:14
You're
going
to
be
like
here
try
this
birth
control
or
try
these
insets
,
and
you
know
,
and
then
if
you
come
back
five
appointments
later
and
you're
still
complaining
a
year
later
,
let's
talk
excision
surgery
,
and
then
you
know
that
goes
.
And
then
two
years
later
down
the
road
you're
back
in
the
office
for
the
exact
same
thing
.
Then
you're
going
take
it
all
out
hysterectomy
,
I'm
done
,
I'm
done
.
This
is
the
trajectory
so
many
women
end
up
on
,
because
we
don't
understand
the
etiology
where
endometriosis
comes
from
,
and
so
even
the
clinicians
are
limited
,
and
many
clinicians
won't
even
recommend
pelvic
floor
physical
therapy
because
it
wasn't
part
of
their
training
.
They
don't
understand
.
Speaker 2
24:58
One
of
the
things
that
the
clinician
that
I
wrote
the
book
with
Ingrid
Hernandez
is
,
one
of
the
things
she
really
wants
to
do
is
and
you'll
see
a
section
in
the
book
about
it
is
being
able
to
connect
all
of
the
disciplines
and
why
we
whether
it's
gastroenterology
,
anything
,
why
we
should
all
be
interconnected
and
changing
the
referral
source
,
but
that's
changing
the
medical
education
system
and
the
understanding
of
new
research
,
new
disciplines
.
This
is
why
clinicians
always
need
to
be
advancing
their
education
,
because
there's
things
that
are
changing
and
the
standard
of
care
is
changing
,
and
sometimes
you
as
the
patient
has
to
be
your
own
best
advocate
to
ask
for
that
If
your
clinician
doesn't
bring
it
up
,
say
I
want
to
go
to
pelvic
floor
physical
therapy
,
ask
for
it
,
demand
it
.
Speaker 1
25:50
It's
there
,
yes
,
and
you
know
what's
interesting
,
and
you
mentioned
the
educational
piece
of
this
and
the
understanding
and
knowledge
.
We
met
with
a
provider
who
said
in
OBGYN
school
,
when
they
were
in
medical
school
,
they
didn't
learn
how
to
palpitate
.
Is
that
not
scary
that
you
have
providers
who
that
is
their
primary
focus
in
women's
health
and
they
haven't
learned
how
to
do
that
properly
?
Speaker 1
26:12
That's
scary
to
me
,
but
that's
not
uncommon
,
unfortunately
,
right
,
and
that's
where
it
becomes
more
complex
.
And
this
is
where
the
patient
really
has
the
benefit
of
being
able
to
advocate
for
themselves
.
And
unfortunately
and
fortunately
,
patients
are
becoming
way
more
savvy
in
their
care
and
they're
demanding
way
more
in
their
care
than
what
was
even
five
years
ago
.
And
so
I'm
hopeful
that
maybe
we'll
start
seeing
this
shift
.
Maybe
we'll
start
seeing
this
shift
where
they're
encompassing
a
whole
body
approach
,
where
they
look
at
everything
that's
going
on
without
coming
into
a
pre-bias
of
what's
happening
in
your
body
,
right
?
That's
also
another
issue
.
Is
that
bias
when
you
walk
in
the
room
?
Speaker 1
26:52
Okay
,
you're
coming
for
endometriosis
,
oh
,
boy
,
you
know
,
instead
of
listening
to
everything
and
symptoms
are
getting
missed
and
patients
aren't
getting
complete
care
because
we're
not
listening
to
what's
happening
from
head
to
toe
,
you
know
,
and
that's
huge
.
But
also
as
patients
and
maybe
you
can
expand
on
this
a
little
bit
more
but
as
patients
,
we
have
to
put
the
work
in
too
.
We
can't
rely
solely
on
our
doctors
and
prescriptions
.
We
have
to
put
that
work
in
.
When
you
advocate
and
you
put
the
work
in
,
have
you
in
your
studies
,
looked
at
how
that
affects
patient
populations
?
Speaker 2
27:26
I
have
not
personally
done
the
research
,
but
I
have
.
I've
seen
this
research
introduced
at
many
,
many
,
many
medical
conferences
with
where
we're
looking
at
changing
the
standard
of
care
,
understanding
the
standard
of
care
and
this
.
This
is
across
multiple
disciplines
and
it
is
very
important
.
You
know
,
in
one
sense
we
shy
away
from
Dr
.
is
not
your
friend
but
at
the
same
time
,
if
you
can
learn
to
disseminate
the
information
that's
on
the
internet
you
look
at
the
NIH
,
you
look
at
those
clinical
research
studies
,
not
someone
putting
up
on
their
website
that
something
works
for
this
.
For
instance
,
I
just
had
someone
who
,
because
it
was
on
some
associations
website
that
oxalates
made
a
difference
,
low
oxalate
diets
made
a
difference
for
vulvodynia
,
and
this
information
was
put
out
on
this
platform
and
I
was
like
no
,
no
,
no
,
no
,
no
,
no
.
I
was
like
,
just
because
it
was
said
on
a
website
.
I
said
there
was
a
theory
in
1991
when
a
study
was
done
with
vulvodynia
and
many
of
the
patients
had
oxalates
in
their
urine
when
we
studied
it
,
that
we
found
that
we
can
just
say
it's
an
oxalate
thing
.
If
you
do
a
low
oxalate
diet
it'll
make
a
difference
.
But
all
of
the
research
since
1991
has
debunked
that
theory
but
yet
we
still
live
in
this
world
where
this
1991
study
is
still
hanging
on
and
women
are
thinking
that
they
need
to
do
a
low
oxalate
diet
,
when
they're
limiting
their
diet
essentially
is
what
they're
doing
,
and
they're
limiting
maybe
some
of
the
nutrition
that
they
need
and
some
of
the
things
that
their
body
does
need
because
of
an
old
study
.
Speaker 2
29:08
Menopause
is
another
great
example
.
The
Women's
Health
Initiative
.
You
know
we
started
this
in
1995
.
In
2002
,
we
dropped
it
because
we
were
scared
to
death
because
there
was
a
few
women
that
had
developed
cancer
while
doing
the
study
,
that
it
was
related
to
HRT
.
And
we're
going
to
scare
all
women
away
from
hormones
and
we're
going
to
just
suffer
because
,
as
women
,
we're
just
taught
to
suffer
with
our
conditions
because
they
haven't
been
researched
,
we
haven't
even
been
included
in
medical
studies
till
1993
.
And
so
then
fast
forward
to
2019
,
and
we
completely
debunk
that
,
where
the
FDA
stopped
this
study
in
2002
,
because
we
find
those
women
had
other
factors
relating
to
their
genetics
,
other
things
like
that
that
led
to
them
getting
cancer
that
had
nothing
to
do
with
the
HRT
.
And
as
women
now
we've
been
spending
this
entire
generation
,
from
2002
to
2019
.
And
even
now
,
because
women
are
scared
to
death
.
Speaker 2
30:10
I
talk
every
day
to
women
scared
to
death
of
HRT
and
it's
like
no
,
are
you
perimenopausal
?
Are
you
menopausal
?
You
should
be
on
HRT
.
You
need
to
talk
to
your
doctor
about
HRT
because
then
you're
going
to
reduce
the
incidences
where
we're
soaring
in
dementia
,
cardiovascular
disease
,
osteoporosis
.
How
do
we
prevent
these
things
if
we're
not
following
something
that
we
were
scared
away
from
in
2002
?
So
that
idea
of
accessing
medical
information
and
advocating
for
yourself
is
critical
and
critical
,
and
we're
given
new
tools
and
new
ways
every
day
to
do
that
,
like
,
for
instance
,
hrt
.
Speaker 2
30:50
I
recommend
all
of
our
customers
go
to
myalloycom
,
because
most
of
the
time
,
if
you
go
to
your
clinician
right
now
and
you're
perimetopausal
,
menopausal
,
and
you
go
,
I
think
I'm
having
symptoms
I
think
I
need
there
will
still
be
clinicians
that
will
not
prescribe
you
HRT
,
hormone
replacement
therapy
.
They
will
be
scared
.
They
will
tell
you
just
just
that
you
know
,
don't
worry
about
it
.
And
then
,
in
reality
,
you
need
to
be
able
to
advocate
for
yourself
.
So
great
companies
have
come
out
,
like
my
alloy
,
where
you
can
literally
go
on
there
I
think
it's
forty
,
nine
,
ninety
,
five
or
something
,
don't
quote
me
exactly
and
you
go
on
to
their
website
,
you
pay
for
the
initial
referral
fee
and
you
put
in
all
your
information
.
Speaker 2
31:31
A
clinician
reviews
all
of
your
information
,
your
clinician
reviews
all
of
your
information
and
then
they
decide
what
to
prescribe
you
because
there's
no
test
for
hormones
.
Our
hormones
are
like
they're
changing
every
two
seconds
.
You
can't
do
a
test
and
say
you're
menopausal
it
wouldn't
happen
.
So
in
reality
,
you
just
have
to
review
the
symptoms
and
your
age
,
where
you're
at
in
life
,
and
determine
what
you
need
based
on
that
,
and
then
go
on
hormone
replacement
therapy
and
go
to
websites
like
MyAlloi
,
which
allows
you
to
just
get
,
I
think
for
that
same
$49.95
,
you
can
get
three
months
of
medication
mailed
to
you
and
it
easy
peasy
.
It
comes
to
your
door
.
You're
not
arguing
with
a
clinician
or
being
dismissed
by
a
clinician
who
doesn't
understand
that
you
should
be
taking
HRT
now
,
collect
information
and
then
advocate
for
yourself
,
whether
it's
finding
a
way
around
which
there
are
amazing
companies
being
built
for
ways
around
all
different
kinds
of
things
where
us
,
as
women
,
hit
brick
walls
.
Speaker 1
32:41
Absolutely
,
and
anytime
you're
looking
at
prescribing
or
doing
medications
,
if
you
have
other
providers
say
vascular
doctors
or
anything
like
that
make
sure
that
you
do
talk
to
them
about
that
as
well
,
because
there
is
a
correlation
with
clotting
disorders
and
things
like
that
.
So
I
want
to
say
that
it's
important
to
include
all
of
your
providers
in
this
decision
as
well
.
But
finding
a
good
HRT
provider
is
a
massive
challenge
and
something
that
I
face
even
still
.
Finding
someone
that
I
feel
like
is
going
to
look
at
me
individually
and
look
at
my
symptoms
and
a
huge
feat
for
me
to
find
someone
that
would
prescribe
my
testosterone
and
look
at
you
know
all
the
levels
and
things
like
that
.
But
it
was
just
so
important
that
I
got
on
my
HRT
.
Speaker 1
33:24
As
someone
who's
gone
through
surgical
menopause
at
such
a
young
age
,
it's
made
a
huge
difference
in
my
quality
of
life
and
I
want
to
say
this
just
for
anyone
that's
listening
who
maybe
has
had
a
hysterectomy
or
who's
had
their
ovaries
removed
or
whatever
.
It's
important
to
do
this
sooner
than
later
,
because
if
you
have
not
,
it
will
feel
like
your
endo
is
back
,
because
your
body
is
starving
for
something
that
it
so
desperately
needs
,
and
I
experienced
that
as
someone
who
had
no
idea
prior
to
my
hysterectomy
and
oophorectomy
that
other
than
estrogen
.
I
knew
estrogen
,
but
I
didn't
know
why
that
that's
so
important
and
that's
kind
of
been
one
of
my
big
passions
is
post-excision
how
do
we
take
care
of
ourselves
in
each
stage
that
we're
in
?
And
that's
where
that
advocating
part
really
comes
into
play
Advancing Women's Health Research Worldwide
Speaker 1
34:09
.
And
something
that
you
mentioned
is
the
vulvodynia
.
Can
you
explain
that
just
a
little
bit
to
people
so
they
understand
it
?
And
it
is
an
important
thing
that
we
should
be
paying
attention
to
as
well
.
Speaker 2
34:19
Yeah
,
so
with
vulvodynia
,
this
is
again
very
similar
to
endo
,
in
that
we
do
not
know
a
lot
about
vulvodynia
and
so
for
those
that
may
potentially
be
diagnosed
with
it
,
vulvodynia
is
going
to
be
like
a
chronic
pain
in
the
vulva
area
in
your
genitals
.
It
can
be
pain
.
There's
no
cause
.
We
have
no
understanding
again
as
to
why
it
happens
,
and
it
can
be
debilitating
.
Whether
it's
just
from
experiencing
pain
from
sitting
,
of
course
it's
going
to
flare
during
administration
time
,
and
it's
going
to
flare
for
a
variety
of
reasons
that
we
actually
don't
understand
,
including
sex
,
and
so
that's
where
the
Relivium
comes
in
and
is
a
big
help
in
a
lot
of
cases
for
vulvodynia
patients
.
Speaker 2
35:10
But
because
we
don't
understand
it
,
there
are
theories
constantly
going
out
and
,
like
I
mentioned
,
the
low
oxalate
diet
,
this
is
something
that
again
was
posited
in
1991
,
still
persists
to
this
day
,
even
though
it's
been
debunked
time
and
time
and
time
again
that
it
doesn't
make
a
clear
difference
for
vulvodynia
in
utilizing
a
low
oxalate
diet
.
Speaker 2
35:36
And
I'm
constantly
trying
to
provide
this
information
because
by
limiting
your
diet
you
can
be
limiting
nutrients
,
you
can
be
limiting
other
things
that
your
body
may
need
,
and
so
it's
never
good
to
go
on
a
limiting
diet
that
you
don't
need
Right
.
The
oxalates
are
really
related
to
kidneys
and
kidney
function
and
kidney
stones
and
,
yes
,
when
they
pass
through
your
bladder
,
when
they
pass
through
your
urethra
,
they
might
tear
things
up
and
feel
awful
and
your
vulvular
pain
as
a
result
of
this
,
but
it's
coming
from
your
kidneys
and
that
is
where
if
you
had
a
chronic
reason
and
your
urologist
told
you
to
go
on
a
low
oxalate
diet
,
that
makes
sense
.
But
then
to
just
go
oh
,
I
have
vulvodynia
,
I
should
go
on
a
low
oxalate
diet
.
There's
no
correlation
to
that
.
We
understand
very
little
about
vulvodynia
and
it's
something
where
we
manage
the
symptoms
,
whether
they
experience
it
for
one
week
,
three
months
,
three
years
or
more
.
Speaker 2
36:38
Just
like
endometriosis
,
it
really
becomes
about
symptom
management
because
until
we
do
the
research
to
really
understand
the
etiology
of
these
female
conditions
,
mind
you
,
let's
go
back
to
the
fact
that
we
have
not
been
doing
medical
studies
on
women
and
were
not
included
until
1993
.
That
is
not
that
long
ago
.
We're
talking
30
years
,
of
which
we
just
started
researching
women
,
and
I
mean
we're
just
now
,
with
the
campaigns
for
endometriosis
and
everything
,
getting
the
funding
to
really
research
it
.
And
for
the
first
time
and
that's
the
other
problem
is
this
goes
into
funding
,
funding
for
women
and
women's
health
conditions
.
The
majority
is
still
funneled
away
from
women's
health
conditions
.
There
was
just
recently
introduced
by
Biden
a
women's
health
initiative
that
will
redirect
and
fund
dollars
and
they
are
really
listening
to
the
voices
of
the
clinicians
that
are
treating
these
women
that
are
seeing
these
.
They're
getting
a
chance
to
fill
out
surveys
and
to
provide
information
and
for
the
first
time
we're
really
listening
.
So
if
we
actually
truly
start
doing
research
studies
,
it's
never
going
to
work
.
Speaker 2
37:54
We're
over
a
hundred
years
behind
.
If
we
continue
with
the
traditional
models
of
researching
healthcare
of
30
women
here
,
a
hundred
women
here
in
,
like
certain
populations
,
and
then
we're
going
to
apply
this
to
the
entire
population
of
the
United
united
states
,
then
that
is
not
going
to
be
helpful
.
We
have
to
go
around
the
traditional
senses
.
One
of
the
things
I
recently
did
I
actually
partnered
and
created
a
new
type
.
Well
,
my
amazing
geniuses
,
who
are
not
made
,
created
,
um
,
a
type
of
ai
.
That
is
a
way
,
and
it's
called
her
health
and
I
hope
to
be
launching
it
here
by
maybe
next
year
We'll
see
and
it
will
plug
into
existing
healthcare
systems
and
the
figurative
idea
is
that
we
map
data
points
.
So
the
more
data
we
collect
and
put
into
one
system
as
women
,
the
more
that
can
map
data
points
for
us
that
have
never
been
mapped
.
So
if
we
continue
these
traditional
models
,
we'll
never
catch
up
.
So
we
have
to
think
outside
the
box
.
There's
great
people
thinking
outside
the
box
besides
.
You
know
just
myself
sitting
here
trying
to
figure
out
how
we
can
pull
data
from
other
women
and
I
think
we'll
get
there
.
It's
just
innovating
and
implementing
these
new
ways
,
these
resources
.
I
mean
the
more
data
we
dump
into
her
health
.
Speaker 2
39:21
And
my
idea
is
not
to
just
get
women
from
the
United
States
.
I
want
women
from
all
over
the
world
.
So
,
talking
to
Health
Canada
,
talking
to
the
national
health
system
in
the
UK
,
talking
to
the
resources
,
partnering
with
Doctors
Without
Borders
so
that
we
get
women
from
remote
areas
of
the
world
,
because
if
we
have
data
from
all
women
and
we
can
map
data
points
from
all
women
,
then
we'll
be
able
to
get
to
the
etiology
.
We
have
to
get
to
the
etiology
what
caused
this
?
And
then
we
can
get
to
the
innovating
and
the
advancing
of
treatments
and
discovery
and
how
and
preventative
actions
.
Speaker 2
40:01
Without
that
understanding
and
I
can
name
20
different
right
off
the
top
of
my
head
20
different
women's
health
conditions
that
we
don't
even
know
the
etiology
of
and
that
women
suffer
from
on
a
constant
basis
and
we're
constantly
just
suffering
and
the
reason
why
we're
dismissed
is
because
it
is
easier
to
deal
with
the
people
that
come
in
and
have
something
clear
cut
and
I'm
going
to
send
you
to
surgery
.
I'm
going
to
give
you
this
drug
.
You're
going
to
do
this
.
Here's
what
you're
going
to
do
.
Go
home
and
do
it
Versus
,
I
have
no
idea
.
You
could
try
this
,
this
and
this
and
see
what
works
for
you
Right
.
Speaker 1
40:37
How
has
Desert
Harvest
?
Specifically
because
you
guys
have
done
a
lot
of
research
.
How
have
you
facilitated
that
research
?
Because
I
think
the
idea
of
encompassing
every
woman
from
every
part
is
important
,
but
that's
not
been
an
easy
feat
to
this
point
.
So
how
have
you
guys
navigated
the
research
?
End
of
that
?
Advancing Women's Health and Research
Speaker 2
40:55
For
us
.
I
always
say
that
selling
Desert
Harvest
products
funds
my
passion
,
which
is
advancing
women's
health
and
women's
health
research
,
and
so
it
is
very
important
to
me
,
when
I'm
looking
at
different
things
,
to
go
to
the
source
,
to
go
to
the
best
.
Whether
it's
the
best
endometriosis
doctor
in
the
country
that
has
done
the
most
amount
of
research
,
whether
we
went
to
McGill
because
they
have
the
top
pain
research
center
in
the
world
,
and
if
anybody
is
going
to
advance
women's
pain
research
,
it's
going
to
be
McGill
up
in
Montreal
,
because
they
are
the
best
in
the
country
.
So
I
don't
limit
myself
,
let's
say
,
just
to
the
United
States
,
but
I
want
to
be
able
to
go
to
the
best
,
because
if
those
are
the
best
,
they're
going
to
be
the
ones
that
are
going
to
be
able
to
advance
things
Like
.
Currently
we're
doing
a
study
at
Wake
Forest
University
with
interstitial
cystitis
patients
.
We're
with
Dr
Robert
Evans
.
He
is
one
of
the
best
interstitial
cystitis
doctors
in
the
entire
world
and
so
my
most
important
thing
is
making
sure
that
these
are
the
clinicians
that
are
truly
committed
to
what
they
are
doing
and
that
they
are
advocating
and
they
are
looking
to
propel
forward
for
women
,
for
themselves
,
so
that
then
they
can
have
the
resources
to
be
able
to
provide
the
women
that
are
coming
to
see
them
,
and
so
that
is
kind
of
the
trajectory
I
always
take
with
research
.
Speaker 2
42:22
We
fund
most
of
it
ourselves
,
and
that
is
specifically
because
we
are
industry
.
It's
not
something
a
supplement
company
typically
does
.
They're
just
capitalistic
here
take
this
and
I'll
take
your
money
,
and
how
many
multi-level
marketing
companies
exist
out
there
,
you
know
,
specifically
to
sell
supplements
,
and
so
it's
been
very
important
to
me
to
be
very
intentional
with
the
ingredients
,
about
the
products
.
We
make
their
purpose
,
their
benefit
.
I'm
not
going
to
make
something
that's
going
to
have
a
laundry
list
of
side
effects
.
I'm
not
going
to
make
something
that
is
not
going
to
benefit
women
in
some
way
,
because
I
see
it
all
the
time
.
It's
a
sad
state
in
which
I
see
all
these
products
that
have
no
benefit
whatsoever
.
For
instance
,
bloomberg
did
a
study
in
2016
,
and
this
is
just
aloe
vera
gelase
,
which
you
would
typically
think
of
using
on
a
sunburn
.
They
did
a
study
in
2016
,
and
this
is
just
aloe
vera
gelase
,
which
you
would
typically
think
of
using
on
a
sunburn
.
They
did
a
study
in
2016
and
they
went
into
the
stores
and
pulled
aloe
vera
gels
off
of
Walgreens
,
cvs
.
Speaker 2
43:23
Walmart
shelves
and
they
tested
them
all
.
There
were
no
measurable
levels
of
aloe
vera
in
any
of
them
,
any
of
them
whatsoever
.
And
this
is
the
problem
is
,
you
know
,
I
can
name
aloe
vera
products
that
are
on
the
market
,
plenty
of
them
juices
,
even
capsules
that
claim
to
be
the
same
thing
that
we
are
have
no
measurable
levels
of
aloe
vera
,
because
I
just
send
some
out
for
independent
third
party
testing
occasionally
,
just
because
I
like
to
know
what
people
are
doing
to
consumers
and
stuff
like
that
,
and
so
and
it's
not
the
testing
that
,
just
you
know
,
that's
the
problem
,
it's
consumers
.
We
can't
go
home
,
buy
a
product
,
test
it
,
see
if
it's
really
good
or
not
,
or
do
anything
.
And
same
thing
with
the
recent
scare
with
what
was
it
?
Speaker 2
44:08
Cold
medicine
.
You
know
they
did
that
study
over
16
years
at
the
University
of
Florida
.
They
did
that
study
over
16
years
at
the
University
of
Florida
and
they
found
that
it
did
absolutely
nothing
.
But
you
know
what
,
when
you
ask
the
FDA
,
they
will
say
we
are
a
safety
organization
,
not
an
efficacy
organization
,
efficacy
meaning
that
something
works
,
and
so
they
are
just
making
sure
that
something
is
safe
,
so
there's
no
reason
not
to
take
it
,
other
than
the
fact
that
it
does
absolutely
nothing
and
these
people
are
just
making
money
off
of
people
who
don't
feel
well
and
need
something
to
feel
better
.
That's
a
perfect
example
with
the
cold
medicine
,
our
environment
and
our
market
,
and
advocating
for
yourself
as
a
consumer
and
being
able
to
choose
products
that
you
can
actually
trust
is
very
,
very
difficult
.
Speaker 1
44:55
It
is
,
it
absolutely
is
,
and
I
can
tell
you
just
from
personal
experience
in
the
aloe
piece
of
this
because
you
know
you
touched
on
the
different
aloe
products
in
the
different
stores
and
how
this
correlates
.
But
as
someone
who
is
very
sensitive
to
sun
and
I
live
in
Colorado
,
so
hello
,
sunburns
like
instantly
right
.
How
much
closer
can
you
get
?
Speaker 2
45:15
to
the
sun
.
Speaker 1
45:16
Yeah
,
exactly
how
much
drier
?
Could
we
be
Right
?
But
I
,
you
know
,
I
went
to
Hawaii
gosh
,
this
is
a
long
time
ago
,
it
was
before
I
had
kids
and
I
had
gotten
this
terrible
sunburn
.
And
I
went
into
this
store
who
sold
aloe
and
they
kind
of
made
their
own
and
we
were
talking
to
the
guy
there
and
he
goes
you
know
,
what
you're
getting
in
the
grocery
stores
and
other
stores
is
primarily
water
and
he's
like
it's
not
the
right
kind
of
aloe
that's
going
to
be
healing
for
your
skin
.
And
he
goes
,
and
not
only
that
,
it's
full
of
alcohol
which
dries
your
skin
,
which
is
counterintuitive
to
actually
healing
your
skin
.
Speaker 1
45:50
And
so
we
have
become
so
much
more
aware
of
what's
in
those
aloe
products
because
we
I'm
not
kidding
you
.
So
we
got
this
product
for
sunburns
and
it
was
amazing
and
I
had
severe
,
like
almost
purple
skin
and
I
don't
we
don't
need
to
talk
about
my
you
know
lack
of
judgment
in
that
area
,
but
I
will
say
that
I
legitimately
did
not
peel
.
After
three
days
it
was
healed
and
it
was
a
bad
burn
.
And
that's
where
quality
product
makes
a
huge
,
huge
difference
.
And
I
have
seen
the
same
thing
in
the
Desert
Harvest
aloe
and
that's
why
I
really
love
the
product
and
you're
going
to
hear
me
say
this
again
because
this
is
probably
one
of
my
favorite
products
,
specifically
for
those
tender
skinned
people
,
and
I'm
super
sensitive
to
products
on
my
skin
.
Speaker 1
46:38
I'm
super
sensitive
to
things
that
I
put
on
my
skin
.
So
those
with
mast
cell
disorders
we
often
are
really
sensitive
to
what
we
put
on
our
skin
.
Those
with
hypermobile
disorders
EDS
we
are
again
we're
very
sensitive
.
So
aloe
for
me
has
been
healing
and
it's
given
me
avenues
of
healing
that
I
wouldn't
have
with
traditional
over-the-counter
things
.
And
that's
why
I
find
that
it's
so
important
that
we
talk
about
this
topic
and
why
I'm
having
you
on
,
because
for
those
that
struggle
in
this
area
,
specifically
internally
and
externally
,
we
have
to
find
ways
that
are
healthy
and
hypoallergenic
,
that
can
help
us
and
not
be
fooled
by
the
labels
at
the
grocery
store
or
the
department
store
.
And
that's
why
I
think
this
has
been
so
good
to
learn
about
.
What
does
Desert
Harvest
have
coming
up
next
?
Because
you
guys
have
been
doing
a
lot
for
a
lot
of
years
,
but
I
feel
like
you're
just
now
getting
started
into
some
bigger
things
.
Speaker 2
47:39
Oh
,
yes
,
yes
,
we
have
two
very
amazing
products
which
should
be
out
either
by
like
the
end
of
the
year
.
I
think
we're
actually
going
to
start
taking
pre-orders
for
one
of
them
next
month
.
One
is
it's
called
UTI
Defense
UTI
defense
,
and
so
your
typical
over-the-counter
that
you
go
to
on
the
market
right
now
is
D-mannose
.
A
lot
of
the
times
,
for
recurrent
UTIs
,
you
drink
your
cranberry
juice
,
things
like
that
.
That's
all
D-mannose
,
which
is
actually
also
an
aloe
vera
,
mind
you
,
and
is
an
extraction
source
.
But
it
only
binds
in
research
to
E
coli
bacteria
,
one
type
of
bacteria
.
Speaker 2
48:16
So
with
the
new
ingredient
that
we
have
discovered
and
in
our
new
research
,
we
just
finished
up
a
UTI
study
with
the
organization
Live
UTI
Free
and
we're
really
excited
to
be
able
to
introduce
those
results
because
they're
being
quantified
now
.
Speaker 2
48:32
But
essentially
we
were
able
to
show
that
it
binds
to
three
and
potentially
two
more
,
so
a
total
of
five
bacterias
.
So
you've
just
gone
from
one
bacteria
with
D-mannose
to
multiple
bacterias
that
showing
in
research
it
binds
to
,
and
so
you're
just
quadrupling
your
defense
,
and
so
that
product
and
it
will
literally
be
called
U
like
U
,
uti
defense
,
and
that
will
be
coming
out
by
the
end
of
the
year
.
And
then
we
also
have
and
this
one
I'm
really
excited
about
we
made
a
new
fabric
out
of
aloe
vera
,
and
so
it
was
really
important
to
us
and
I'm
sure
everybody
is
seeing
with
the
menstrual
products
out
on
the
market
the
chemicals
,
the
PFAS
,
the
issues
that
we're
seeing
with
the
fabrics
and
the
period
panties
what
we're
seeing
the
toxic
chemicals
and
tampons
and
everything
else
like
that
.
We
wanted
to
create
something
different
,
and
we
also
didn't
want
them
to
look
like
granny
panties
either
.
We
wanted
something
that
you
know
,
a
woman
wants
to
feel
a
little
sexy
even
though
she's
in
horrible
pain
at
that
exact
moment
.
Speaker 2
49:36
But
we
also
wanted
them
to
be
comfortable
,
and
so
we
developed
what's
called
Lunation
.
These
will
be
our
new
period
panties
and
actually
,
if
you
peek
on
our
website
at
desertharvestcom
,
you
can
kind
of
see
a
teaser
of
them
,
and
those
will
be
coming
out
soon
.
And
we
utilized
aloe
fabric
because
aloe
is
naturally
antibacterial
,
antifungal
,
antimicrobial
,
and
then
on
top
of
that
we
added
ginger
,
because
it's
naturally
deodorizing
.
We
added
a
ginger
fabric
and
then
we
also
added
bamboo
fabric
,
so
it's
going
to
wick
moisture
,
and
every
single
batch
of
lunation
underwear
that
is
made
will
undergo
testing
to
show
that
no
chemical
ever
touched
an
inch
of
fabric
in
the
making
of
the
materials
,
and
that
testing
will
be
up
on
the
website
for
every
batch
.
Speaker 1
50:29
Wow
,
that's
incredible
.
I'm
so
excited
for
that
.
I
wish
I
had
those
when
I
had
a
period
.
Speaker 3
50:35
Yeah
,
me
too
Me
too
I'm
like
I'm
making
this
product
and
I'm
like
well
,
that's
past
.
Speaker 1
50:41
for
me
it's
a
little
obsolete
in
my
world
,
but
yeah
,
but
hey
.
Speaker 2
50:46
But
yeah
,
my
daughter-in-law
and
my
you
know
,
my
son's
girlfriends
and
I
it
doesn't
matter
who
I
mentioned
to
it's
an
excitement
because
they
know
what's
out
there
.
They
don't
trust
what's
out
there
and
we
want
to
give
them
something
that
they
can
trust
,
feel
good
about
wearing
,
and
feel
good
just
in
the
sense
of
how
it
looks
.
Speaker 1
51:06
Yeah
,
absolutely
I
agree
.
I
think
that
we
need
to
be
a
little
bit
more
cautious
of
that
,
especially
for
those
of
us
who
are
already
fighting
a
lot
of
chronic
illnesses
Like
we
.
Just
if
we
can
eliminate
just
a
little
bit
to
help
our
bodies
,
then
this
is
a
really
good
product
.
Is
this
accessible
worldwide
?
Is
this
only
accessible
in
certain
countries
?
How
does
that
work
for
Desert
Harvest
?
Speaker 2
51:31
So
Desert
Harvest
.
We
are
pretty
much
available
worldwide
.
There
are
a
few
countries
we
have
problems
shipping
to
Africa
,
a
few
South
American
countries
and
Mexico
.
Even
though
our
aloe
comes
from
Mexico
,
it
can't
go
back
into
Mexico
Interesting
.
Yeah
,
it's
really
quite
funny
,
but
that's
pretty
much
the
limit
that
we
have
.
Beyond
that
,
we
pretty
much
ship
worldwide
.
Speaker 1
51:57
I
am
so
excited
to
share
this
with
you
.
But
if
you
are
curious
about
trying
Desert
Harvest's
amazing
products
whether
it's
the
new
products
or
things
like
their
aloe
vera
gel
or
supplements
that
are
gentle
and
soothing
you're
in
luck
,
because
you
can
use
the
code
INNOBATTERY10
at
checkout
and
get
10%
off
all
of
their
products
.
Whether
you're
looking
for
relief
,
better
self-care
or
just
want
to
treat
yourself
,
this
is
a
chance
to
experience
their
incredible
healing
products
for
less
.
So
go
to
DesertHarvestcom
and
plug
in
INDOBATTERY10
and
get
your
products
today
,
and
then
head
on
over
to
and
let
me
know
what
you
think
is
the
best
product
that
you
have
tried
so
far
.
So
,
again
,
go
to
desertharvestcom
and
plug
in
Endo
Battery
10
and
get
your
discounted
products
today
.
Speaker 1
52:49
I'm
excited
for
your
new
products
.
I'm
excited
for
the
work
that
you're
doing
and
just
the
passion
behind
what
you're
doing
.
You're
not
just
a
company
with
a
product
,
you're
a
and
just
the
passion
behind
what
you're
doing
.
You're
not
just
a
company
with
a
product
,
you're
a
company
with
a
mission
,
and
that's
kind
of
why
I
wanted
to
highlight
what
you
guys
do
.
But
you're
also
very
knowledgeable
in
a
lot
of
women's
health
issues
,
which
I
appreciate
that
,
because
it's
not
just
focusing
on
one
,
because
oftentimes
we
,
as
women
,
don't
have
just
one
thing
going
on
.
We're
very
complex
humans
.
Speaker 1
53:14
You
know
,
yes
,
our
comorbidities
about
us
,
we
would
say
yeah
,
exactly
,
exactly
.
But
I
appreciate
the
work
you're
doing
and
I
appreciate
everything
that
you're
putting
into
making
future
generations
better
and
having
things
and
tools
to
help
them
live
their
lives
,
allowing
ways
for
women
to
thrive
in
life
and
throughout
their
life
.
So
thank
you
for
doing
that
work
.
I
appreciate
that
.
Speaker 2
53:41
Thank
you
,
it's
a
trickle
effect
.
I
always
say
you
educate
one
woman
and
they
educate
another
.
We
are
a
community
that
pass
the
information
along
,
so
that's
my
ultimate
goal
is
to
educate
and
inform
and
pass
it
along
the
ultimate
goal
is
to
educate
and
inform
,
and
pass
it
along
.
Speaker 1
53:59
Yeah
,
heather
,
what
are
some
parting
words
that
you
would
use
for
those
navigating
tough
journeys
of
health
?
Don't
give
up
.
Speaker 2
54:04
You
are
your
best
advocate
and
find
your
tribe
because
you're
not
alone
in
the
journey
.
No
matter
how
alone
you
feel
,
there
are
other
women
out
there
suffering
and
you
can
find
that
network
in
that
community
and
address
yourself
from
head
to
toe
.
Your
mental
health
,
your
gut
health
,
your
vaginal
health
everything
in
your
body
interconnects
.
Make
sure
you're
addressing
it
all
.
It's
okay
to
say
that
you're
not
feeling
mentally
healthy
,
because
you
know
when
you're
in
a
chronic
pain
state
this
takes
a
toll
.
So
address
it
all
yeah
,
absolutely
it
does
.
Speaker 1
54:36
Thank
you
,
he
,
for
everything
you're
doing
and
for
taking
the
time
to
sit
down
with
me
today
.
I
just
appreciate
you
spending
the
time
with
me
and
giving
us
more
hope
moving
forward
in
our
journeys
,
and
the
wisdom
that
you
share
.
Speaker 2
54:47
So
thank
you
so
much
for
joining
me
.
Thank
you
,
Alana
,
for
having
me
.
This
was
wonderful
.
Speaker 1
54:51
Yes
,
Until
next
time
.
Continue
advocating
for
you
and
for
those
that
you
love
.