Breaking Barriers: The Emotional & Medical Realities of Endometriosis With Fisayo Thompson

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Endometriosis is more than just a medical condition—it’s a relentless battle against misdiagnosis, systemic healthcare failures, and societal stigma. In this powerful episode, we shares our deeply personal journeys with chronic pain, shedding light on the emotional toll of navigating an often dismissive medical system. We continue our conversation with filmmaker and advocate Fisayo Thompson, who brings her unique perspective as both a patient and storyteller, using her platform to push for change.

Together, we unpack the hidden challenges of endometriosis—from the psychological impact of chronic illness to the urgent need for better education and medical support. With raw honesty and resilience, we discuss how community, advocacy, and breaking cultural taboos can pave the way for better treatment and awareness.

🔹 The emotional & medical struggles of endometriosis
 🔹 Fisayo’s personal experiences and her documentary’s mission
 🔹 How healthcare barriers delay diagnosis & treatment
 🔹 The intersection of mental health and chronic illness
 🔹 Why advocacy and education are critical for change

This episode isn’t just a conversation—it’s a call to action. Whether you’re battling endometriosis, supporting a loved one, or seeking to understand this condition better, tune in for a deeply compelling discussion that will leave you informed, empowered, and ready to help shift the narrative. 

#EndometriosisAwareness #ChronicIllness #HealthcareAdvocacy #MentalHealth #InvisibleIllness

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Introduction to Alana's Journey

Speaker 1
0:02

Welcome

to

EndoBattery
,

where

I

share

my

journey

with

endometriosis

and

chronic

illness
,

while

learning

and

growing

along

the

way
.

This

podcast

is

not

a

substitute

for

medical

advice
,

but

a

supportive

space

to

provide

community

and

valuable

information

so

you

never

have

to

face

this

journey

alone
.

We

embrace

a

range

of

perspectives

that

may

not

always

align

with

our

own
.

Believing

that

open

dialogue

helps

us

grow

and

gain

new

tools

always

align

with

our

own
.

Believing

that

open

dialogue

helps

us

grow

and

gain

new

tools
.

Join

me

as

I

share

stories

of

strength
,

resilience

and

hope
,

from

personal

experiences

to

expert

insights
.

I'm

your

host
,

alana
,

and

this

is

IndoBattery

charging

our

lives

when

endometriosis

drains

us
.

Welcome

back

to

IndoBattery
.

Grab

your

cup

of

coffee

or

your

cup

of

tea

and

join

me

at

the

table

Today
.

Speaker 1
0:46

I'm

thrilled

to

welcome

Fasayo

Thompson
,

a

filmmaker
,

director

and

producer

dedicated

to

telling

powerful
,

untold

stories
.

As

the

creative

force

behind

Walking

Through

Walls
,

fasayo

uses

her

platform

to

shed

light

on

the

realities

of

living

with

endometriosis
,

something

she

knows

firsthand
.

Her

journey

with

endometriosis

began

in

her

teenage

years
,

but
,

like

so

many

others
,

she

faced

cultural

taboos
,

misdiagnosis

and

systemic

health

care

barriers

along

the

way
.

Through

her

documentary
,

she

not

only

raises

awareness
,

but

also

advocates

for

a

better

education
,

improved

medical

care

and

open

conversations

about

chronic

illness
.

Beyond

filmmaking
,

visayo

is

a

passionate

advocate

working

to

create

resources

and

support

for

those

affected

by

endometriosis
.

I

am

so

excited

to

have

her

here

to

share

her

story
,

her

work

and

her

mission
.

If

you

haven't

heard

part

one
,

I

recommend

you

go

back

to

episode

113
,

where

Fasayo

talks

more

about

her

story
.

Here's

a

reminder

where

we

left

off

and

where

we're

going
.

What

has

been

your

experience

walking

through

that
,

from

surgery

to

surgery

and

still

struggling

at

times
?

Speaker 2
1:57

It's

been

heartbreaking
.

I

don't

know

if

there's

another

worse

word

to

explain

that
,

but

it's

been

very

heartbreaking

to

go

from

surgery

to

surgery
.

And

you're

right
,

I

did

set

very

high

expectations

for

every

surgery

and

I'd

say

I

remember
,

you

know
,

every

surgery

I

went

to
,

from

the

first

one

in

2020
.

That's

my

first

excision
.

I'd

say
,

oh
,

one

and

done
.

I

used

to

say

one

and

done
,

one

and

done
,

one

and

done
.

But

now
,

if

you

get

one

and

done
,

I

used

to

say

one

and

done
,

one

and

done
,

one

and

done
.

But

now
,

if

you

get

one

and

done
,

you

know
.

Speaker 2
2:27

So
,

over

the

years

and

with

repeated

surgeries
,

I've

learned

to

manage

my

expectations
.

I've

had

doctors

say

manage

your

expectations
.

I've

had

surgeons

say

that
,

but

I

didn't

take

that

to

heart

until

after

coming

out

of

surgery
.

You

know
,

giving

it

a

couple

of

weeks
,

couple

of

months

and

then

realizing
,

oh
,

my

goodness
,

this

is

not

the

end
.

You

know
,

giving

it

a

couple

of

weeks
,

couple

of

months

and

then

realizing
,

oh

my

goodness
,

this

is

not

the

end
.

You

know

I

still

got

to

go

back

again
.

Speaker 2
2:48

So
,

yeah
,

I

now

advocate
,

you

know
,

to

take

it

easy

on

yourself
.

You

know

if

it's

a

one

and

done

for

you
,

wow
,

congratulations
.

But

if

it's

not
,

don't

be

hard

on

yourself
,

it's

not

your

fault
,

you've

done

your

best
.

And

also

to

also

realize

that

endometriosis

has

a

lot

of

consequences

on

the

body
.

You

know
,

some

of

them

can

be

not

be

treatable

by

surgery
.

You

know
,

some

people

have

lost

organs
.

I've

lost

organs

too
,

and

when

you

lose

organs

it

has

that

effect

on

the

body
.

There's

a

way
.

You

know

God
.

For

those

of

us
,

I

believe

God

designed

the

body

and

if

something

is
,

know

god
.

For

those

of

us
,

I

believe

god

designed

the

body
.

And

if

something

is

missing
,

you

feel

it
,

you

know

it
,

you

know

right

and

so

it's

very

important

to

to

manage

expectations
,

to

have

a

multidisciplinary

team
.

Speaker 2
3:35

I

think

you

know

we
,

we

are

very

fixated

on

surgery
,

because

surgery

is

the

only

treatment

as

of

now
,

because

because

there's

no

cure
.

But

we

also

have

to

realize

that

endometriosis
,

when

seeking

out

care
,

we

should

have

a

multidisciplinary

team
.

So

that's

what

I'm

doing

a

lot

of

now

in

functional

medicine
,

you

know
,

trying

to

supplement

this
,

that

mental

health

as

well
,

because

I

got

to

a

point

where

my

husband

said

I

know

you're

strong
,

but

you

need

mental

help
.

You

know
,

and

I

agree

because

you

know

the

tears
,

the

despondency
.

It

was

a

lot
.

But

I've

had

to

talk

to

myself
,

you

know
,

and

I

still

do

this
,

still

today
,

and

I

tell

people

to

when

they

talk

to

me
,

by

which

is

I

say

take

it

and

easing

yourself
,

don't

be

hard

on

yourself
.

If

all

you

do

in

a

day

is

survive
,

you've

done

the

most

important

thing
.

I'm

a

recovering

perfectionist
.

Yes
,

he

runs

a

family
.

Yes
,

same
.

Speaker 2
4:34

And

I

had

my

life

mapped

out

and

just

this

morning

I

was

preparing

everybody

to

go

out
.

I

walked

from

home

and

everyone

was

going

and

I

realized
,

on

a

scale

of

one

to

10

of

what

I

wanted

my

life

to

look

like
.

I'd

say

maybe

I'm

on

a

two

on

what

I

want

my

life

to

look

like

at

this

age
.

You

know

so

many

things

I

thought

I'd

figure

out

I'd

ticked

off
.

I'm

on

a

two
,

but

I've

learned

to

be

happy

with

the

little

things
.

I

have

a

roof

over

my

head
.

I

have

food
,

you

know

I'm

happy

with

that
.

I

can
,

I

can

walk
,

you

know

I'm

happy

with

that
.

Speaker 2
5:10

I've

gone

from

two

crutches

to

one

crutch
.

So

I

try

not

to

be

so

frustrated
.

From

time

to

time

I

still

go

back

to

my

crutch

because

I

still

have

ongoing

issues
.

So

when

I

have

to

then

go

back

to

using

the

crutch

I

feel

very
,

very

I

feel

bad
.

But

I

said
,

okay
,

at

least

it's

not

two

crutches
,

it's

one

crutch
.

So

there

is

still

something

to

be

happy

about
.

Speaker 2
5:33

So

it's

very

hard

on

the

mental

health

and

knowing

that

you

may

not

be

as

perfect

as

the

normal

person

in

court
,

as

the

normal

person

in

court
,

but

still

be

grateful

for

what

you

have
.

Some

people

don't

have

what

you

have
,

you

know
,

and

just

give

yourself

grace
.

You

didn't

ask

to

have

it

in

the

matriarchs
,

you

just

have

it

and

you're

doing

your

best
,

even

oftentimes

better

than

the

average

person
.

You've

gone

through

everything

and

you're

still

standing
,

you're

still

going
.

So

I

give

myself

grace
.

I

say

okay
,

if

not

today

tomorrow
,

if

not

today

tomorrow
,

I

did

this

today
.

Tomorrow

is

another

day
.

So

I

take

it

by

the

day

now

and

I

hope

you

know

people

will

live

from

that

and

just

live

in

the

moment
,

enjoy

the

moment
.

Speaker 1
6:27

Yeah
,

that's

something

that

I

have

learned

in

my

journey

is

that

it

is

a

day

by

day
,

moment

by

moment

I

wouldn't

even

say

it's

always

a

struggle
,

but

moment

by

moment

reevaluation
,

right
,

and

I

do

think

there

is

something

to

be

said

about

living

in

gratitude

for

what

you

can

do

and

not

in

fear

of

what

you

can't

do
,

Because

fear

holds

us

back
.

Gratitude

allows

us

to

live

in

that

moment

of

okay
,

I

can

do

this

one

step

at

a

time
,

and

even

if

it's

not

the

most

perfect

step

and

maybe

it's

a

painful

step

to

take
,

it's

one

step

and

it

may

be

a

tiny

one
,

but

it's

one

step
.

And

I

think

it's

about

the

matter

of

perspection
,

right
,

Introspection
,

and

perspective

is

is

important
,

and

that's

kind

of

like

my
,

my

life's

word

is

perspective
,

because

I

think

without

it

you

lose

sight

of

value

and

you

lose

sight

of

growth

and

knowledge
.

And

and

I

and

I

really

think

that

if

we

sit

in

that

space

and

think

about
,

okay
,

my

perspective

is

it's

not

perfect
,

but

I

get

to

do

X
,

Y

and

Z
.

Speaker 2
7:42

And
.

Speaker 1
7:43

I'm

in

pain

today
.

I

can't

walk

but

I

can

breathe
.

Or

I'm

having

a

hard

time

breathing

today
,

but

I

have

food

in

my

belly
.

You

know
,

it's

little
,

finding

moments

of

gratitude
,

finding

pieces

of

gratitude

Support and Awareness Beyond Medical Advice

Speaker 1
8:00

,

and

that's

not

to

be

confused

with

toxic

positivity
,

it's

to

give

you

a

little

bit

of

hope
,

sure
,

along

the

way
,

right
,

like

if

it's

all

doom

and

gloom
,

what

gives

you

purpose
,

what

gives

you

drive

to

keep

going
?

Speaker 2
8:13

you

know
,

but

it's

finding

little

pieces

of

gratitude
,

I

think
,

make

a

huge

difference

in

our

journeys
.

Yes
,

and

it

just

keeps

you
.

It

keeps

you

going
,

you

know
,

gives

you

hope

to

keep

fighting
,

because

the

mental

health

load
,

the

mental

health
,

I'd

say

the

mental

health

is

as

heavy
,

is

as

terrible

as

the

physical

health
.

You

know
,

people

don't

see

the

mental

health

burden

and

consequences

of

endometriosis
.

Usually

it's

not

written

on

your

face

but

it's

huge
.

So

people

say
,

are

you

in

pain
?

Are

you

in

pain
?

I'm

like
,

oh
,

I'm

okay
.

But

it's

the

mental

health

and

healing
.

You

know
,

and

for

me
,

I

think
,

you

know

I've

had

the

quite

unlucky

end

of

this

thing

somehow
,

because

I've

had

surgeries

go

wrong
.

I've

woken

up

with

barely

any

painkillers

and

screamed

and

like

almost

lost

my

mind
,

you

know
.

So

we're

walking

through

it

and

say
,

ok
,

that

was

horrible
,

that

should

have

never

happened
.

But

I'm

glad

I

woke

up

and

little

by

little

I'll

heal

every

day

till

I

get

to

a

good

place
.

Little

by

little

I'll

heal

every

day

until

I

get

to

a

good

place
.

Speaker 1
9:24

Yeah
,

do

you

think

that

there's

been

more

barriers

for

you

because

you're

an

African

woman
?

Who

people

I

mean

you

said

it

when

they

talked

about

this

is

a

rich

white

woman's

disease

and

that's

something

that

I

can't

experience

because

to

some

cultures

I

might

be

rich
,

although

I

don't

feel

that

way
,

but

I'm

definitely

white

living

in

middle

America
,

very
,

very

privileged
.

I

recognize

in

a

lot

of

ways
,

and

do

you

think

that

some

of

these

barriers

that

you

have

faced

and

some

of

the

things

that

you've

experienced

is

because

of

not

only

the

color

of

your

skin

but

your

nationality

and

the

culture

that

you

come

from
?

Speaker 2
10:12

Yeah
,

I

don't

think

I

know

and

I

lived

it
,

you

know
,

and

research

supports

it

and

I

know

many

people

want

to

bury

their

head

in

the

sand

but

it's

the

reality

and

that's

why

I

like

the

work

that

Endo

Black

is

doing
.

But

yeah
,

the

first

time

I

heard

about

this

disease
,

my

race

came

in

immediately
.

So

imagine

and

I

always

think

back

it

took

me

about

19

years

to

first

hear

about

this

disease
,

because

I

now

realize

that

there's

a

difference

between

the

first

time
.

There's

a

timeframe

difference

between

when

I

first

heard

about

this

disease

and

when

I

actually

got

a

diagnosis

of

this

disease
.

You

know
,

there's

that

two

year

gap

between

both
.

Speaker 2
10:53

But

the

first

time

I

heard

about

this

disease

I

was

dismissed

as

oh
,

I'm

sure

you

don't

have

it

because

you're

Black
.

And

so

now

that

I

look

back

I

wonder

how

many

surgeons
,

surgeons
,

how

many

doctors

have

seen

me
,

thought

about
,

you

know
,

the

possibility

of

me

having

endometriosis
,

but

did

not

mention

it

because

I'm

black
.

So

imagine

that

that

um

doctor
,

the
,

the

diner

that

said

it
,

I

remember

she's

um
,

she's

Jewish
,

she's

a

female

Jewish
,

um

um

doctor
,

and

she

said

and

she

just

said

it

in

person

and

said

I'm

sure

you

don't

have

it
,

she's

Jewish
.

She's

a

female

Jewish

doctor

and

she

just

said

it

in

person

and

said

I'm

sure

you

don't

have

it
.

So

I

wonder

how

many

other

doctors

before

her

had

seen

me

and

thought

I

do

not

have

it
.

So

maybe

I

may

have

even

had

an

earlier

diagnosis

if

I

was

white
,

if

other

doctors

didn't

see

my

black

skin
,

you

understand
,

and

also

africans
.

Speaker 2
11:47

You

know

I've

also

had
.

Oh
,

I'm

sure

africans

don't

have

it

as

well
.

You

know

you

guys

are

strong

and

healthy
.

And

no
,

we're

not

true
,

I

have

a

white

tongue
.

Speaker 2
11:56

And

because

I

usually

end

up

in

the

a

and

e
,

you

know
,

sometimes

every

couple

of

days
,

sometimes

like

clockwork

every

weekend
,

and

I've

had

uncountable

situations

where

I

was

refused

strong

painkillers
,

I

get
,

I

get

to

the

hospital
,

I'm

screaming

in

pain
.

Sometimes

they

want

to

bound

me

to

the
,

to

the

doctors
.

There's

some

footages

of

me

in

horrible

pain

that

that

couldn't

go

on

the

film

because

of

how

violent

they

were
,

you

know
,

and

to

be

in

that

screaming

pain
,

having

to

be

held

down
,

and

they

want

to

give

me

panadol
.

And

my

question

is

do

you

think

I

do

not

have

panadol

at

home
?

You

know
,

I

think

we

call

it

panadol

in

the

uk
,

you

call

it

tylenol
.

Do

you

think

I

have

not

taken

more

than

enough

tylenol
,

ibuprofen

and

diclofenac
,

you

know
.

So

I

come

to

the

hospital

and

I've

had

nurses

and

doctors

on

multiple

occasions

say
,

oh
,

come

on
,

you

can

bear

the

pain
,

you're

a

strong

woman
.

And

I

said
,

okay
,

what

was

that

pause

between

the

strong

and

the

woman
?

Right
,

I

know

you

I

most
.

I

can

bet

you're

about

to

see

a

black

woman
,

you

understand
.

So

they

say

you're

a

strong

woman

and

I'm

like
,

okay
,

is

that

why

you

won't

give

me

good

painkillers
?

And

it

took

a

while
.

I'd

hear

them

outside

my

A&E

room

saying
,

oh
,

she's

strong
,

she

should

be

able

to

manage

it
.

She's

a

mom
.

Because

when

they

looked

through

my

distance

I

say
,

oh
,

you

have

kids
.

I

say

yes
,

how

did

you

have

your

kids
?

Oh
,

just
,

you

know
,

I

had

vaginal

deliveries
.

They

say
,

oh
,

come

on
,

if

you

can

bear
,

you

know
,

vaginal

delivery
,

you

can

bear

this

pain
.

And

I

said
,

no
,

this

is

different
,

you

know
,

and

that

was

just

in

a

couple

of

hours

you

have

the

baby
.

But

this

is

continuous

and

I'm

fed

up

and

they

say
,

well
,

I'm

sure

you

can

bear

the

pain
.

Speaker 2
13:39

There's

even

hospital

research

has

shown

that

doctors

think

that

black

people

have

thicker

skin

and

they

have

less

nerve

endings
,

so

we

feel

less

pain
.

So

it

is

not

what

we

not

just

think
.

It's

documented

that

there

is

that

bias
.

You

know
.

I've

seen

someone

else

in

pain

less

pain

than

me
,

outwardly

and

they

go

muffin

and

for

the

longest

time

I

hear

doctors

say
,

should

we

give

a

muffin
?

Should

we

give

a

muffin
?

Maybe

we

should
.

We

give

her

morphine
?

Maybe

we

should

give

her

morphine
?

Oh
,

no
,

she's

strong
,

she

can

bear

it
.

She's

a

mom
,

you

know
.

And

the

back

and

forth
.

Do

you

think

she's

drug

seeking
?

Oh
,

come

on
,

I'm

sure

she

can

bear

it
.

No
,

people

expect

black

people

to

bear

pain
.

They

think

we

can

bear

pain
,

but

no
,

we

can't
.

We're

all

humans
.

There's

only

one

race

and

that's

the

human

race
.

So

I

think

you

know

there's

a

lot

of

work

to

be

done

in

medical

schools

and

in

the

medical

community

to

read

that

preconceived

notion

that

black

people

can

be

a

more

pain
.

Even

if

we

can

be

a

more

pain
,

that

doesn't

mean

we

should
.

Right
,

that's

it
.

Yeah
,

but

I

don't

even

think

we

can
.

Or

even

if

we

can
,

that

doesn't

mean

we

should
.

Speaker 2
14:49

And

I

wonder

if

that

played

a

role
,

because

when

I

had

my

hysterectomy
,

it

was

about

a

six
,

seven

hour

surgery

and

I

woke

up

particularly

without

any

painkillers
.

The

reason

they

agreed

to

do

the

hysterectomy

was

because

morphine

wasn't

working

for

daily

pain
.

Now

imagine

being

given

the

same

morphine

for

for

six

hours
.

The

surgeon

said

we

kept

cutting

and

cutting

and

cutting
.

We

did

our

best
,

so

I

knew

he

didn't

finish

cutting
.

That's

what

it

meant
,

basically

right
,

you

know
.

Speaker 2
15:18

And

so

you

give

the

same

muffin

that

didn't

work

for

everyday

pain
.

You

give

it

for

six

hours

surgery

where

you

cut

out

organs

out

of

me
.

And

you

cut

so

much

out

of

me
.

Why

will

you

do

that

so

for

many

years

I'd

cry

every

time
.

I

think

about

the

fact

that

you

gave

morphine

because

I

almost

died

because

they

kept

pushing

the

morphine

pushing

and

my

heart

almost

stopped

on

the

table
.

I

woke

up
,

you

know
,

in

the

intensive
.

So

I

feel

like

if

I

was

a

white

woman
,

will

you
,

will

you

do

that
?

I

feel

like

we

black

women
,

we

get

the

shorter

end

of

the

stick

when

it

comes

to

painkillers
,

when

it

comes

to

being

diagnosed

on

time
,

you

know
,

and

getting

quicker

treatment

for

endometriosis
.

Speaker 1
16:03

It

is

documented
.

I

know

that

he

was

advocating

for

you

and

was

his

word

not

valid

in

these

scenarios

either
?

Because

that's

what

to

me

was

when

talking

about

that

is

so

shocking

is

because

here
,

if

your

spouse

who

lives

with

you

is

a

provider

and

is

teaching

medicine

or

is

practicing

medicine
,

they

have

more

validity

to

their

word

most

of

the

time
,

but

it

doesn't

sound

like

that

was

the

case

for

you

guys
.

Speaker 2
16:35

Yeah

it

was

crazy
.

There

was

a

point
,

you

know
,

I

stopped

going

to

the

A&E

because

they

had

labeled

me

drug

seeking

and

they'd

even

told

me

to

my

face

that

you

keep

coming

here

because

you

want

the

morphine

high
,

you

know
,

and

so

I'd

rather

faint

at

home
.

I'd

open

the
,

I

opened

the

door
,

I'd

let

my

husband

know

I

think

I

could

faint

your

son

and

he

keeps

saying

well
,

just

call

the

ambulance
,

go

The Importance of Diverse Perspectives

Speaker 2
17:00

to

the

E&E
.

And

I

refuse

to

go

because

they

wouldn't

give

me

medications
,

so

they

won't

give

me

the

proper
,

adequate

painkillers
.

And

I'd

always

say

but

I

noticed

that

every

time

I

went

with

him
,

you

know
,

they'd

say
,

oh
,

just

give

paracetamol
.

Paracetamol
,

you

know
,

injection
,

infusion
.

And

he'd

have

to

advocate

to

say
,

oh

no
,

you

can't
.

Speaker 2
17:20

My

husband
,

he

used

to

walk

in

the

accident

and

emergency

at

some

point

as

well
,

and

he'd

say

come

on
,

I'm

your

colleague

and

I'm

telling

you

she's

in

a

lot

of

pain
,

she's

in

unbearable

pain
,

she's

managed

all

week

and

she

can't

take

it

anymore
.

You

have

to

give

something

stronger
.

And

I

remember

he

used

to

say

he

was

very

frustrated

and

that

it

was

traumatizing

for

him

to

be

a

doctor

and

see

his

wife

in

so

much

pain

and

still

not

be

able

to

get

her

the

help

that

she

needs
.

So

he

said

your

journey

has

been

very

traumatizing

to

me
,

and

so

I

can

only

imagine

how

much

you

feel

that

you're

going

through

it
.

And

so

he

says

he

feels

very

frustrated

with

his

colleagues
,

especially

when

they

treat

black

people
.

So

he

said

you

need

to

look

beyond

the

skin

color

and

give

adequate

pain

medications
.

And

I

wouldn't

even

go

to

an

E&E

if

I

don't

go

with

my

husband
.

Speaker 2
18:10

And

if

I

say

I'm

in

a

lot

of

pain
,

they

say
,

oh
,

we'll

give

you

Panadol

or

Codine
,

but

my

husband

has

to

speak

up
,

and

that's

another

thing
.

You

know

the

sexism

too

is

there
.

You

know

women

are

not

believed
,

but

if

a

man

comes

with

you
,

they

believe
.

So

if

my

husband

goes

with

me
,

they

give

me

the

morphine

injection
,

but

if

I

go

in

alone
,

they

just

give

me

paracetamol
,

paracetamol
.

Sometimes

my

husband

will

have

to

leave

work

and

drive

down

to

the

e

and

e

to

tell

them

I'm

a

doctor

and

my

wife

is

in

a

lot

of

pain
.

You

have

to

give

her

something

better
.

She

needs

morphine
,

right
,

you

know
?

And

that's

just

crazy
.

And

yes
,

he

says
,

he

says

it

a

lot
.

He

says

sometimes

I

am

ashamed

to

be

a

doctor

when

I

see

the

way

my

colleagues

treat

women
,

you

know
,

women

with

endometriosis
,

women

in

pain

and

even

women

generally

that

need

medical

help
.

Speaker 1
18:59

He

feels

very

frustrated

about

it

or

he's

seeing

this

from

just

a

care

person's

perspective
.

And

I

mean
,

there

were

so

many

times

that

I

look

back

at

my

journey

and

think
,

wow
,

my

husband

was

the

backbone

to

my

journey

because

I

had

no

fight
,

I

was

in

pain
,

I

was

defeated
,

I

was

feeling

this

sense

of

desperation

that

I

was

like

I

just

wanna

be

done

with

it
.

I

just

I

can't

do

this

anymore
.

And

he

was

the

one

that

was

advocating

for

me
.

But

he

also

was

super

frustrated

sometimes

because

he

felt

like

he

was

hitting

that

wall
,

that

proverbial

wall

of

roadblocks

and

just

all

the

things

that

many

of

us

face

and

and

it

is

traumatizing

for

them

and

it's

so

hard

to

see

someone

you

love

so

much

go

through

something

so

horrible

and

not

be

able

to

do

anything
.

And

if

your

husband's

anything

like

mine

which

he

sounds

very

similar

is

that

he's

a

fixer
.

He

wants

to

help

people
,

he

wants

to

fix
,

he

wants

to

make

it

better

and

when

he

can't
,

it's

so

hard

for

them

and

it

takes

a

toll

on

them
.

Speaker 2
20:10

Yes
,

it

does
,

because

people

back

home

both

our

families

back

home
,

you

know
,

when

he

tells

them

about

the

struggles

we

go

through
,

they

say
,

oh
,

you

know
.

And

even

my

friends
.

They

say
,

oh
,

you're

lucky
,

your

husband

is

a

doctor
,

so

I'm

sure

you'll

fix

it
.

You

know
,

they

think
,

oh
,

your

husband

can

treat

you
.

And

I

said
,

no
,

he

can't

treat

me
,

he

can't

even

see

me

as

a

patient
.

Right
,

do

it
.

And

so

they

say
,

oh
,

you're

lucky
,

your

husband

is

a

doctor
.

Speaker 2
20:35

I

said
,

no
,

I

am

telling

you
,

he

has

nothing

to

with

him

being

a

doctor
.

And

he

expresses

his

frustration
.

He

said

I'm
.

I

mean
,

how

do

people

that

are

not

even

medical

manage
?

You

know
,

I'm

a

doctor
,

I

can't

help

her
.

He

says
,

no
,

I

can't

treat

her
,

I'm

a

family

doctor
,

I

can't

do

anything
,

I

can

just

follow

her
,

I

can

talk
,

I

can
,

you

know
,

I

can

express

it
,

and

I

see

he

says

that
.

He

can

see

that

they

believe

when

he

tells

them

more

than

when

I

tell

them
,

and

that's

frustrating

for

him

as

well
.

But

even

at

that
,

we

still

hit

brick

walls
.

They

still

say
,

oh

well
,

doctor
,

you

know

how

the

system

is
,

you

know
,

and

it's

like
,

okay
,

I

give

up
.

Speaker 1
21:14

Honestly
,

right

and

I

and

I

would

say

this

is

not

like

one

country

over

another
,

this

is

globally

an

issue
.

Speaker 2
21:23

Yes
,

and

very

global
,

yeah
,

very

global
.

I

think

some

places

are

worse

than

others
.

We're

in

a

first

world

country

and

when

we

tell

our

family

back

home
,

they

usually

say
,

oh
,

but

you

know
?

Oh
,

you're

in

a

first

world

country
,

you're

lucky
.

And

I

said

no
,

it's

global
,

it's

everywhere
.

The

struggles

are

everywhere
.

It's

not

based

on

the

country

you

live

in
.

To

be

honest
,

it

isn't
.

Speaker 1
21:44

Yeah
,

sometimes

the

first

world

countries

are

worse

than

some

of

the

others
,

depending

on

the

country
,

so

there's

other

barriers

in

place
.

Speaker 2
21:53

Oh
,

yeah
,

there

are
,

because

when

I

was

struggling

to

get

a

hysterectomy
,

it

was

so

bad

and

I

was

suicidal

before

that

hysterectomy
.

It

was

that

bad

and

it

was

afterwards

if

you've

seen

my

uterus

in

the

video

and

I

put

it

side

by

side
.

There

was

a

time

I

took

so

much

morphine

I

almost

lost

my

mind
.

I

think

I

have

an

idea

of

how

it

is

to

actually

go

bonkers

and

lose

your

mind
,

to

be

honest
,

and

I

said

I

was

going

to

do
.

There

was

that

particular

day
.

I

said

I

could

do

something

crazy

right

now
,

but

I

remember

I

have

kids

and

all

of

that
,

and

my

family

said

you

know

what
?

Why

not

just

come

back

to

Nigeria
?

You

live

in

the

first

world

country
.

You

can't

get

the

hysterectomy
.

You

could

get

a

hysterectomy

in

one

week

Back

home

here
.

Just

fly

back
.

You

know
,

if

you

have

your

money
,

you

get

quick

medical

care
.

That's

against

the

long

waiting

time
.

So

yeah
,

every

country

has

its

own

barriers
.

Absolutely
,

absolutely
.

Speaker 1
22:50

Absolutely
,

and

there's

a

lot

of

red

tape
.

The

more

established

in

the

first

world

the

country

is
.

I

think

there's

just

a

lot
,

a

lot

of

the

red

tape
,

a

lot

of
.

Speaker 2
23:01

Bureaucracy
.

Speaker 1
23:02

Yeah
,

and

you're

up

against

the

cost
.

Still
.

I

think

that's

something

that

people

feel

and

experience

on

multi-level

approaches
,

even

though

we

live

in

a

first

world

country

and

we

have

access

to

care

doesn't

mean

we

can

always

afford

it

and

that's

a

challenge
.

And

we're

paying

for

insurance

here

in

the

US
.

We

pay

for

insurance

to

help

cover

our

medical

expenses

and

then

it's

not

covered

through

our

medical

expenses
.

So
,

yes
,

there's

barriers

everywhere

that

you

turn

when

it

comes

to

this

disease

and

a

lot

of

that

is

because

of

the

standard

of

care

for

endometriosis

and

because

the

lack

of

knowledge

for

endometriosis

in

medical

school

and

in

the

workforce
,

even

in

when

you're

talking

to

a

provider

in

the

office
.

Speaker 1
23:48

I

think

a

lot

of

times

providers

stop

at

educating

themselves

when

they

leave

medical

school
.

It's

what

medical

school

taught

them

and

beyond

that

it

might

be

some

experiential
.

But

honestly
,

if

you're

not

exploring

past

what

is

the

norm
,

you're

missing

some

things
.

We

experienced

this

for

endometriosis

across

the

board

and

something

that

I

loved

that

you

talked

about

in

the

film

was

just

that

delay

in

progression

of

understanding

the

disease

for

providers

and

educators

and

that

you

know
,

like

what

you

said

with

your

husband
,

he

didn't

learn

this

but

maybe

a

day

in

medical

school

and

that

was

optional
,

and

you

broke

this

down
,

the

pharmaceutical

aspect

of

it
.

You

broke

down

the

educational

barriers

and

biases
,

and

I

appreciated

that
,

because

it

that

is

truly

the

crux

of

what

we're

dealing

with

with

endometriosis

is

are

those

barriers
.

What

was

that

like

to

kind

of

speak

about

that

and

to

face

that

head

on

for

this

film
?

Speaker 2
25:11

of

you

know

walking

through
,

you

know

what's

the

route
.

You

know
,

for

every

problem

I

I

see

I

face
,

I

always

go

to

the

roots
.

You

have

to

pull

it

out

at

the

roots
,

you

know
,

and

not

just

at

the

surface

level
,

because

I

see

a

lot

of

us

we're

doing

a

lot

of

advocacy
,

many

people

are

knowing

about

the

matrices
,

but

in

terms

of

actual

tangible

results

we're

in

so

much

you

know
.

And

so

I

said
,

okay
,

what's

the

problem
?

And

I

spoke

with

my

husband
,

I

spoke

a

couple

of

doctors

and

he

said
,

oh
,

they

have

guidelines

as

doctors
,

the

guidelines

they

have

to

follow
.

So

that's

why

I

said
,

okay
,

maybe

the

problem

is

the

guideline
.

So

let's

go

to

this

guideline

and

see

it
.

And

you

know
,

through

the

work

of

you

know

very
,

you

know

they're

very

passionate

warriors
,

like

ray

ray

the

warrior
.

You

know

quite

a

number

of

them

and

funny

diaries

as

well
.

Speaker 2
25:57

She

did

a

breakdown

of

that
,

you

know
.

I

also

looked

at

the

eshra
,

you

know
.

I

said
,

okay
,

eshra

is

the

guideline
.

Eshra

and

nice

they

set

the

guidelines

for

the

treatment

of

endometriosis
.

So

maybe

that's

where

the

problem

is

coming

from
.

So

I

looked

at

that
,

looked

at

the

work

of

other

people

that

we're

talking

about

this

and

I

realized

that

something's

wrong

here
.

This

is

where

the

problem

is

coming

from
.

You

can't

expect

doctors

are

bound

to

do

this
.

This

is

the

problem
,

this

is

the

solution
.

Right
,

and

they
,

they
,

I

think

they're

fearful
,

they

cannot

go

outside

of

that
.

So

I

decided
,

okay
,

let's

take

a

deep
,

deep

dive

into

this
.

So

I

want

to

acknowledge

Fanny

Diaries

in

reading

all

the

work

she

did

into

this
.

It

was

very

brilliant
.

And

I

said

you

know

what
?

All

the

things

reading

through

Eshra

and

seeing

so

much

you

know

pharma
,

pharma
,

pharma

medications
,

medications
,

very
,

you

know
,

not

much

discussion
,

in-depth

talk

and

guidelines

about

surgery
,

but

so

much

about

GnRH

and

hormonal
.

And

we

know

that
.

You

know

hormones

are

Welcoming Fasayo Thompson to the Discussion

Speaker 2
27:00

a

band-aid
,

they're

not

a

solution
.

But

I

felt

like

the

ESHRA

guidelines

went

into

much

details

about

that

and

so

I

said
,

ok
,

who

is

on

these

ESHRA

guidelines
?

Who

are

the

people

setting

up

these

guidelines
?

So

I

found

out
,

you

know

Professor

Becker
.

You

know

he's

the

head

of

the

guidelines
,

but

there

are

members

from

all

over

the

world
.

Speaker 2
27:17

And

then

I

began

to

see
,

okay
,

there's

some

people

representing

pharma
,

big

pharma
.

Why

are

they

in

here
?

That's

a

red

flag
.

You

know

big

pharma

generally

they're

a

for-profit

organization
.

They

want

to

make

profits
.

They

make

medications

for

profit

and

they

have

to

push

this

so

that

you

buy

it

and

they

make

bank
.

So

why

are

they
?

Their

focus

is

Doctors

are

for

us
,

patients
,

but

pharma

make

these

medications

to

make

profits
.

You

understand
,

doctors

are

not

for

profits
,

they're

for

patients
.

So

why

are

they

on

the

team
?

So

that's

why
,

you

know
,

I

spoke

with

them
,

professor

becker
,

to

say

someone's

wrong

here
,

let's

go

to
,

you

know
,

to

oxford

and

find

out
.

Speaker 2
28:00

But

I

spoke

with

a

couple

of

people

and

said

I

want

to

do

a

deep

dive

into

this
.

And

people

said

oh

no
,

you're

treading

on

very

slippery

slope

here
,

going

after

big

pharma
,

you

know
,

and

exposing

a

lot

of

this
.

And

I

said

yeah
,

I

know
,

but

we

need

to

say

the

truth
,

or

else

we're

just

running

around

in

circles
.

And

if

we

don't

say

that
,

we

need

to

say

the

truth
,

or

else

we're

just

running

around

in

circles
.

And

if

we

don't

say

that
,

you

know
,

they

say

the

truth

shall

set

you

free
.

You

know
,

if

you

don't

say

the

truth
,

you're

not

going

to

see

tangible

results
.

So

that's

why

I

had

that

conversation

with

Professor

Becker
.

It

should

have

been

a

whole

lot

more

than

that

actually
,

but

you

know
,

I

did

another

interview

with

him

not

too

long

ago
.

It's

on

my

youtube

page
.

That

just

had

to

be

said
.

Right
,

you

know

that

big

pharma

should

not

have

any

business

being

in

eshra
.

But

he

did

explain

to

say

they're

they're

sponsoring
,

and

I'd

say
,

why

is

government

not

sponsoring
?

The

government

should

take

the

financial

so

that

you

can

focus

on

the

patients

and

not
,

you

know
,

not

big

pharma
.

They

may

put

one

or

two

words

in

terms

of

how

their

hormones

help

and

all

of

that
.

Speaker 2
29:01

Or
,

you

know
,

I

just

saw

quite

a

number

of
,

you

know
,

yellow

and

red

flags

that

absolutely

needed

to

be

exposed

and

I

also

walked
.

I

walked

to

the

lawyer

to

say
,

okay
,

let's

be

safe

here
.

What's

happening
?

Let's

do

the

right

thing

here
.

Yeah
,

well
,

there

were
,

there

were

just

a

lot

of
.

Speaker 2
29:21

I'm

not

sure

you

should

go

down

that

path
,

but

I

didn't

care
.

If

you've

seen

me

in

pain
,

I

don't

care

whose

ox

is

good
,

and

it's

not

just

me
,

it's

millions

of

us
.

We

need

to

get

to

the

bottom

of

this
,

find

out

what's

wrong
,

who's

causing

it
,

who's

in

the

way
,

who

needs

to

get

out

of

the

way
,

right

so

that

we

can

get

the

the

changes

and

the

help

that

we

need
.

So
,

yeah
,

and

I

think

you

know

that

that

part

really
,

you

know
,

stands

out

for

people
.

You

know

people

are

really

scared

for

me

and

say

I'm

not

sure

if

you

do

this
.

Speaker 2
29:52

But

I

said

I

don't

care
,

because

at

that

point
,

when

I

was

making

the

film
,

I

was

coming

out

of

surgery

and

we're

going

back

into

editing
.

Come

on
,

go

for

surgery

back

into

edit
,

go

for

surgery

back

into

edit
.

And

I

remember

telling

my

editor

I

said

you

know
,

I

may

not

even

live

to

see

this

film
.

I

told

her

and

I

told

my

husband
.

I

said

if

anything

happens

to

me
,

surgery

or

for

any

reason
,

I

can't

make

it

because

people

have

actually

died

from

this

disease
,

because

people

have

actually

died

from

this

disease

you

know
,

and

I

was

in

a

very

bad

place
.

Speaker 2
30:18

I

said

if

I

don't

make

it

to

the

end

of

this

film
,

just

make

sure

you

release

it

and

police

put

that

in

the

investigation

part

of

it
.

You

know

I'm

a

journalist

it's

got

to

show

up

in

the

film
,

yeah
,

so

I'm

glad

I

put

that

in

there

for

people

to

dig

deep

into

the

roots
,

you

know
,

and

I

hope

people

go

deeper
,

because

I

think

what

I

did

was

shine

a

spotlight

on

it

so

that

people

can

dig

deeper
,

you

know
,

and

continue

the

work

from

there
.

Speaker 1
30:47

Yeah
,

absolutely
.

I

think

that

made

a

big

impact

for

me
,

just

having

it

in

a

visual

appearing

piece

where

you

can

take

it

in

If

you're

a

visual

learner
,

that

was

impactful
.

And

I

think

gosh

ma'am
,

we

talk

about

this

all

the

time

and

truly

these

are

things

that

are

life

and

death

for

some

people
,

and

that's

why

I

think

that

it

was

so

impactful
,

because

you

have

lived

that

life

and

death

and

it's

not

just

hearsay
,

it's

not

just

you

know
.

Well
,

this

is

what

I

think

it

is
.

Speaker 1
31:20

This

is

I

went

back

and

I

really

looked

at

this

because

my

life

depended

on

this

and

to

understand

this
,

and

so

that's

why

the

impact

of

that

was

so

profound

is

because

you've

lived

it

and
,

anne
,

not

only

have

you

lived

it
,

your

family

has

lived

this
,

and

they've

seen

you

walk

through

this
.

Not

only

have

you

lived

it
,

your

family

has

lived

this

and

they've

seen

you

walk

through

this
.

And

if

anyone

has

children
,

you

know

that

when

Mama

Bear

comes

out
,

she

does

not

back

down
.

Exactly
,

I've

got

three

girls
.

Speaker 2
31:49

Yes
,

I've

got

three

girls
,

two

of

them

teenagers
.

So

it

isn't

just

about

me

and

us
,

it's

about

our

daughters

too
.

And

I'm

really

scared
.

I

said

is

this

what

our

kids

are

gonna

are

going

to

come

into
?

I'm

a
.

Speaker 2
32:02

I

just

found

out

that

I

think

I'm

a

third

generation

endo

warrior
.

My

uncle

told

me

that

their

aunt

most

likely

had

endometriosis

because

when

he

explained

her

symptoms

they

mirrored

mine

and

she

died

at

a

young

age
.

I

have

it
.

I

suspect

that

my

mom

had

endometriosis
,

possibly

the

silent

type
,

but

I

see

a

lot

of

similarities

in

my

health

and

hers
.

So

their

aunt
,

first

generation

and
,

who

knows
,

earlier

on
,

my

mom's

generation
,

my
,

my

generation
,

and

now

I

have

three

daughters
,

you

understand
,

and

I

just

shudder

to

think
.

And

we

know

that

endometriosis

there's

a

high

genetic

component

on

this
.

You

know

there's

a

chance

it

will

be

passed

down
.

So

I

wonder

I'm

not

going

to

let

my

kids

walk

into

this
.

Speaker 2
32:53

There's

that

prayer
,

but

aside

from

the

prayer
,

we

need

to

do

something

and

call

out

people
.

Nobody

should

be

profiting

off

of

other

people's

illness
.

Yeah
,

you

know

we
.

Everybody

keeps

talking

about

hormones
.

Can

we

get

diagnosis
?

Can

we

get

treatment
?

Can

people

talk

about

the

cure
?

Why

do

we

keep

hearing

about

hormones
.

It's

very

frustrating
.

So
,

yeah
,

I

think

that's

why

I

did

that
,

and

I

didn't

care

whose

ox

was

God
,

because

I

didn't

even

know

if

I

was

going

to

survive
.

So

I

don't

care
.

Speaker 1
33:25

It

needed

to

be

said
.

It

needed

to

be

said
,

and

if

someone

was

going

to

say

it
,

fisayo

was

going

to

say

it
.

We

know
.

Speaker 2
33:31

I

have

the

reputation

of

being

a

rebel

leader

Right

from

my

uni

days
.

People

say
,

oh
,

F're

such

a

rebel

leader
.

I

say
,

yeah
,

if

you

need

to

be

saved
,

we're

going

to

save

you
.

People

are

dying

from

this

thing
,

Yep
.

Speaker 1
33:43

You

know
,

the

thing

that

I've

realized

is

that

those

of

us

with

endometriosis

have

zero

filter

when

it

comes

to

this

stuff
,

and

it's

because

we

fight

so

hard

for

day-to-day

care

not

even

day-to-day

care
,

but

we

fight

for

better

quality

of

life

minute

by

minute

and

so

I

think

we

just

lose

our

filters
,

we

just

stop

caring
,

because

we've

repeated

ourselves

so

many

times

to

try

to

be

seen
,

to

be

heard
,

to

be

validated

that

no

longer

do

we

care

if

we

offend

people
.

Sometimes
,

you

know
,

and

it's

not

even

just

about

offending
,

it's

about

getting

them

to

understand

what

we're

up

against
.

It's

like
,

yeah
,

I'm

walking

through

that

wall
.

Wow
,

you
,

I

mean
,

you

hit

the

nail

on

the

head

with

that

one
.

Thank

you
,

faisal
.

Speaker 1
34:32

You

have

done

so

much

already

and

you've

done

it

in

the

face

of

adversity
,

and

it's

just
.

I

am

in

awe

of

you

all

the

time

and

thinking

back

to

your

story

and

talking

to

you

every

single

time
,

which

I

love

doing
,

by

the

way
.

But

you're

not

stopping

at

just

doing

one

film
.

You

are

doing

other

projects

in

conjunction

to

the

work

that

you've

done

on

the

film
.

What

are

some

of

the

projects

that

we

can

follow

you

on
?

I

realized

from

on

the

film
.

Speaker 2
35:00

What

are

some

of

the

projects

that

we

can

follow

you

on
?

I

realized
,

you

know

from

making

the

film

that

I

still

have

there's

so

many

things
,

you

know
,

so

many

information
,

so

many

very

important

information

that

still

need

to

be

out

there
.

You

know

because

of

making

the

film
.

So

I

have

a

YouTube

page
.

It's

called

Endo

and

All

on

YouTube

where

you

know
,

I

put
,

know

all

that
,

you

know
,

good
,

very

helpful

information

there
.

And

I

also
,

I

remember

you

know
,

from

the

extra

part

of

the

film
,

people
,

you

know

a

lot

of

people

are

in

my

dms

asking

you

know

how

did

that

go
?

They're

asking

more

questions
,

asking

why

is

pharma

sponsoring

what's

happening

there
?

You

know

so

many

questions

about

that
.

So

I

went

back

to

interview

and

professor

christ

Christian

Becker

to

say

many

people

have

questions
,

can

you

please

come

on
,

you

know
,

and

answer

and

answer

this
.

And

he

was

very

gracious
,

you

know
,

granted

to

us
,

granted

me

an

interview
,

and

so

that

will

be

coming

out

and

very

soon

on

my

YouTube

page
,

endo

and

all
.

So
,

aside

that

as

well
,

you

know
,

my

husband

and

I

we

co-authored

an

endometriosis

adenomyosis

kit
,

so

it's

on

my

website
.

I

run

a

film

production

company
,

so

it's

Fit

Film

Production

and

on

there

we

have

the

free

information
.

Oftentimes

you

meet

people

or

even

your

family
,

your

friends
.

You

can't

start

explaining

endometriosis

from

the

very

beginning
.

So

we

have

this

kit

where

anybody

can

just

go

on

the

site

fitfilmproductionproductioncom
,

download

it

and

you

get
.

You

know

the

a

to

z

of

endometriosis

and

adenomyosis
.

Speaker 2
36:24

And

he

also

talks

about

endometriosis

for

teens
.

You

know

how

to

support

themselves
.

I'm

very

passionate

about

about

teenagers
,

you

know
,

because

that's

they're

at

the

point

where

they

are

not

believed
.

You

know

they're

at

the

point

where

they're

also

trying

to

figure

out

what's

happening

with

them
,

you

know
.

So

we

put

that

there
.

And

also
,

um
,

women

working

and

having

a

new

matriarchs
.

You

know
,

at

this

point

I

cannot

do

a

nine

to

five

because

of
,

I

think
,

but

for

women

that

have

nine

to

fives

and

are

constantly

losing

their

jobs

because

they

cannot

keep

up
,

like

their
,

you

know
,

other

colleagues
,

how

can

they

get

help

and

how

can

their
,

their

organizations

help

them
?

So

all

of

that

is

in

that

kit
.

Speaker 2
36:59

And

then

when

I

Fasayo's Story: Challenges of Diagnosis and Treatment

Speaker 2
37:00

go

to

I

do
,

I

go

to

companies
,

organizations
.

I

also

write

to

schools

to

say

you

know
,

I'd

like

to

come

in

and

talk

about
,

you

know
,

endometriosis
,

sexual

health
,

menstrual

health
,

that

sort

of

thing
,

and

I'd

also

like

the

parents

to

actually

come

in

too
.

You

know
,

it's

not

just

the

students
.

So

I'm

writing
,

you

know
,

I'm

hoping

I

get

the

opportunity

to

do

that
.

Speaker 2
37:19

And

I

approached
,

you

know
,

the

parliament
,

you

know
,

in

in

uk
,

to

say

you

know
,

we'd

like

to

screen

our

film
,

we'd

like

to

talk

to

you

because

there's

actually

an

appg
.

So

that's

all
,

parliamentary

group

on

endometriosis
,

you

know
,

in

parliament
,

but

that's

a

long

that's

a

story

for

another

day
.

Well
,

things

just
,

you

know
,

didn't

work

out

some

charity

ish

and

all

of

that
,

but

I

really

still

wanted

to

make

tangible

results
.

So

I've

gone

back

to

my

home

country

and

we

have

a

project
,

a

week-long

project
,

where

we

want

to

do

advocacy

for

the

public
,

teaching

the

doctors

as

well
,

teach

the
,

the

medical

community
,

and

it's

not

just

family

doctors

or

surgeons
,

you

know
.

So

what

I'm

doing

is
,

you

know
,

getting

specialists

from

different

country

go

back

to

my

home

country
,

teach

doctors
,

surgeons

from
,

from

all

the

specialties
,

because

we

know

endometriosis

is

an

all

the

whole

body

disease

you

know
,

and

then

do

marathon

surgeries
,

you

know
.

Speaker 2
38:16

So

that

way
,

you

know
,

endo

warriors

get

surgery
.

They

need

right

doctors
,

you

know

surgeons

and

residents
.

They

get

the

skills

you

know

surgical

risk

skills

that

they

need
.

And

then

even

people

can

look

back

on

those

videos
.

They

watch

it

as

well
,

you

know
,

and

they

get

a

theoretical

learning

as

well
.

Speaker 2
38:32

So
,

you

know

like

it's

a

week-long

campaign
,

but

you

know

we're

speaking

with

the

legal

state

government

on

this

and

you

know

they're

very

open

to

it
.

So

I'm

really

praying
,

you

know
,

coming

this

coming

year

we

can

see

that

inflation

at

least
.

You

know
,

if
,

if

we're

able

to

impact
,

you

know
,

people
,

I

think

it's
,

it's

it's

legacy
,

you

know
,

because

whatever

you

teach

them
,

world

class

the

top

one

percent

of

the

endometriosis

specialists

and

surgeons

they're

coming

to

nigeria

to

teach

the

people

in

Nigeria
,

you

know
,

bring

them

up

to

standard
,

you

know
.

So

that's

just

a

plan
.

I'm

working

on

that

on

a

daily

basis

because

you

know

it's

a

multi-country

thing
,

getting

everybody

from

different

countries

into

one

place

for

a

week-long

event
.

So

yeah
,

that's

it
.

Speaker 2
39:12

And

also
,

you

know

writing

to

organizations

to

say

we

want

to

come

in
,

talk

to

you
,

talk

to

your

staff
,

and

how

to

have

these

conversations
.

I've

done

a

couple

and

it

was

really

great
.

It

was

really

great

because

then
,

you

know
,

people

began

to

speak

up

about

their

struggles

too
,

and

then

they

had

that
.

You

know

they

had

that

conversation
,

so

it

was

great
.

So
,

yeah
,

that's

just

some

of

the

things

I'm

doing

right

now
.

Speaker 1
39:33

So

nothing
,

I

mean

really
.

You're

just

not
.

You

know
,

you're

just

sitting

around

twiddling

your

thumbs

Because

raising

kids

wasn't

enough
,

we've

got

to

overachieve

and

everything
.

Speaker 2
39:46

Yeah
,

and

hopefully

make

a

film
?

Yeah
,

I

have

that

in

sight

sometime

in

the

future
.

Yeah
,

I

said

no
,

this

is

not

the

end

of

it
.

Walking

through

us

is

not

the

end

of

it
.

Speaker 1
39:56

No
,

it

can't

be
.

It

can't

be
.

I

see

another

film

in

your

future

for

sure
.

Oh

yes
,

Definitely
,

definitely
.

If

you

need

ideas
,

let

me

know
.

Oh

yeah
,

absolutely
,

I'm

open

to

those
.

Speaker 1
40:07

Thank

you

oh

yeah
,

oh
,

my

goodness
,

fasayo
,

I

just

enjoy

spending

time

with

you
.

Speaker 1
40:15

I

love

our

conversations
,

I

love

sitting

down

with

you
.

I

love

that

this

disease

did

not

steal

your

joy
,

the

challenges

didn't

steal

your

joy
,

and

that

permeates

the

wavelengths

between

us
,

it

permeates

the

discussion

and

I

just

I'm

so

appreciative

of

that

because

it

is

so

easy

to

lose

sight

of

what

joy

can

look

like
,

even

in

the

face

of

adversity
.

And

I

think

that

you

have

faced

that

beautifully
,

but

not

without

its

challenges

and

not

without

its

moments

of

defeat
.

And

I

think
,

more

than

just

what

you've

experienced

from

the

disease
,

I

think

that

people

can

take

away

that

you

don't

have

to

let

it

dictate

your

entire

life

and

how

your

outlook

is

in

life
,

and

I

need

that

reminder

sometimes
.

Even

though

it's

hard
,

we

can

do

this

and

I

think

a

big

part

of

that

is

community

and

reaching

out

to

people

who

have

been

there

and

can

build

you

up

in

moments

that

you

cannot

build

yourself

up
.

So

I

just

appreciate

everything

that

you're

doing

and

the

joy

that

you

permeate

and

who

you

are

in

your

advocacy
.

Speaker 2
41:21

So

thank

you

so

much
.

Thank

you
,

too
,

you're

doing

amazing

Well
.

Honestly
,

you

are
,

especially

from

one

mom

to

the

other
.

Sometimes

we

can

barely

take

care

of

ourselves
.

We

have

to

go

and

take

care

of

the

family

and
,

you

know
,

still

have

time

for

this
,

because

I

understand
,

you

know
,

we

know

the

bone

grinding

fatigue

and

you

know

for

you

to

still

keep

on
.

You

know

do

this
.

You

know

run

an

NGO
,

a

podcast
.

That's

a

lot

you're

doing

right

there
,

honestly
.

So
,

yeah
,

I

am

in

awe
.

Well

done
,

I

am

so

happy
,

you

know
,

to

know

you
.

You

know

to

have

this

conversation

is

beautiful
,

it's

uplifting

and

you

know
,

thank

you

for

what

you're

doing

for

the

community
.

It

is

great
.

Honestly
,

it

is

Thank

you
.

Speaker 1
42:04

You're

beautiful
,

thank

you
.

You

know

I

have

deep

passion

and

compassion

for

this

community

and

I

have

made

some

of

the

most

profound

friendships

because

of

my

angry

uterus

and

pelvis
,

so

I'll

take

it
.

Speaker 2
42:26

I

don't

know

I've

made

the

deepest

friendships
,

even

people

you

know

I've

never

met
,

you

know
.

Hope

to

meet
,

you

know
,

but

we

have

this

deep
.

Nothing

is

TMI
.

You

know
,

conversations
,

yeah
,

it's

great
.

Community

is

really

great

and

it

is

what

we

need
.

I

don't

know

where

I'd

be

or

what

I'd

do
,

you

know
,

without

the

community
,

because

sometimes

you

explain

things
,

you

say

this

is

it
,

this

is

it
,

this

is

it
.

But

it

takes

another

person

that

feels

it

to

understand

that

no
,

I'm

not

nagging
,

I

really

am

Right
.

Yeah
,

so

I'm

just

grateful
.

I

really

am

Right
.

Yeah
,

so

I'm

just

grateful
.

Yeah
,

I

am

grateful

for

this

community

and

the

fact

that

nothing

is

TMI
.

We

can

talk

about

hoops

and

talk

about

feelings

and

sex

and

all

of

that
.

Speaker 1
43:12

I

know

Because

it

impacts

everything

in

our

lives
,

you

know
.

And

so

I

think
,

like

if

you

haven't

lived

that

experience
,

it's

really

hard

to

relate

to

it

on

a

deeper

level
.

And

so

when

you

have

that

community

who

gets

it
,

it

changes

your

outlook

on

the

disease
.

It

changes

your

outlook

on

relationships
.

It

forms

a

different

kind

of

relationship
.

You

know
,

it's

not

like

your

typical

relationship
,

it's

a

different
.

It's

a

whole

nother

ballgame

with

people

who

get

it
.

Speaker 2
43:42

Yes
,

the

sisterhood

you

know

in

the

community
.

You

know

people

in

the

community
.

To

me

they

don't

feel

like

friends
,

they

feel

like

sisters
.

It's

like

you

know

where

we

have

arms

intertwined

in

a

war

and

you're

facing

this
,

you

know
,

and

the

fact

that

you

know

we

all

got

each

other
.

There's

no

keeping

things
.

You

know
,

everyone

is

free

and

say
,

oh
,

this

is
,

this

is

what

I

deal

with
.

You

know
,

and

people

are

just

there

for

you

because

they

understand

as

well
,

they're

going

through

it

as

well

and

nobody

sees

you

as

a

burden
.

You

know
,

that

sort

of

thing

is

really

really

great

to

to

to

have

this

community
.

Speaker 1
44:19

Yeah
,

I

agree
,

and

I

look

forward

to

building

more

community

and

hopefully

one

day

we

can

meet

face-to-face

and

not

just

online
.

But

we

will

get

there

one

day
.

Speaker 2
44:26

I

look

forward

to

that
.

Yes
,

we

will
.

Yes
,

we

will
.

Thank

you
.

Yes
,

I

know

a

lot

of

people

have

been

asking

how

to

watch

the

film
,

where

we're

working

really

hard
,

you

know
,

behind

the

scenes
,

I

keep

saying

that

I

want

the

film

to

be

out

in

such

a

way

that

everyone

can

see

it
,

irrespective

of

where

they

are
,

their

financial

status

and

stuff

like

that
,

and

I

think

that's

one

of

the

reasons

why

I

set

up

the

YouTube

page
,

endo

and

All
.

So

I'm

looking

at

even

having

the

film

on

there
.

So

getting

people

to

subscribe

and

down

the

road

is

a

big

possibility

that

we

will

potentially
.

Potentially

and

we're

looking

at

different

options

but
,

yeah
,

that's

an

option

as

well
.

Potentially
,

because

I

don't

want

any

barrier

to

people
,

you

know
,

being

able

to

access

the

film
.

I

just

want

that

global

access
,

whether

you're

in

the

desert

or

in

the

snow
,

wherever

you

are
,

I

just

want

people

to

just
,

you

know
,

watch

the

film

and

learn

and

advocate

for

themselves
.

So
,

yeah
,

we'll

get

to

that
.

We'll

definitely

get

to

it

because

we're

working

on

it
.

Speaker 1
45:29

Yeah
,

thank

you
.

No
,

we

needed

to

highlight

that

because

I

want

everyone

to

see

this

film
.

It

was

very

enlightening
,

impactful
,

and

you

know
,

I

watched

it

with

the

board

that

I

sit

on

with

Indo

Village

and

we

all

of

us

collectively

were

like
,

wow
,

this

was

so

meaningful

to

us

because

we

saw

so

much

of

ourselves

in

your

story

and

and

not

the

whole

story
.

Everyone's

story

is

different
,

it's

unique

to

the

individual
,

but

I

think

just

seeing

pieces

of

it

and

walking

through

our

own

journeys

and

recognizing

areas

that

we

needed

to

readdress

was

important

too
,

and

we

felt

compassion

and

empathy

for

what

you've

been

through

and

I

think

you

know

that

really

propelled

us

to

continue

doing

what

we

do

with

our

nonprofit
.

So

kudos

to

you
.

Speaker 1
46:18

And

I

really

want

everyone

to

watch

this

film

because

it's

so

good
.

But
,

flosayo
,

thank

you

so

much

again

for

sitting

down

with

me

at

the

table

and

being

vulnerable

and

just

sharing

your

story

and

all

the

things

that

you're

doing
.

It's

making

a

massive

impact

for

this

community

and

for

that

drive

to

push

forward
.

So

thank

you

so

much

for

taking

the

time
.

Thank

you
.

Speaker 1
46:40

I

am

thrilled

with

our

friendship

and

we're

going

to

do

another

episode
,

I'm

sure

at

some

point
,

because

this

has

been

so

fun
.

Thank

you
,

Until

next

time
,

everyone

continue

advocating

for

you

and

for

those

that

you

love
.

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